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rick.oliver 16-10-2015 13:05

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While scanning the posts, I noticed one comment similar (or the same) as one of the thoughts which came to mind while contemplating the Teaser.

Alliances assemble their "Champion" from prefabricated sub assemblies and the Champions compete in the match with or without other robots from the team.

I discounted this idea, but since I wasn't alone in that observation, I thought that I would second it (at least, as I did not read all of the 248 posts).

I wonder, when was cheesecake first served?

Rangel(kf7fdb) 16-10-2015 13:17

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Had another thought about the game. Perhaps this year, FIRST will allow different customization without penalizing teams weight wise? Like maybe there are vastly different tasks in this attacking defending game and robots will need to be build completely different depending on their role. While teams can be effective if they build for one role, this would encourage teams to be adaptable and powerhouse teams would have a new level of skill to achieve? Still think the holo lens will be involved somehow in the game. Perhaps drivers need to see through the holo lens when attacking or something in that regard.

rick.oliver 16-10-2015 13:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by P.J. (Post 1500490)
... both protect their "hoard" while trying to steal from the "hoard" of the other alliance. What would one use to protect their hoard? A stronghold, of course...

Perhaps each alliance has a fixed amount of treasure which must be placed in the Stronghold to count towards the score. One robot on the alliance is designated the "Champion" and that robot is the robot allowed to attack the stronghold of the opposite alliance and/or defend its own alliances stronghold.

The two remaining robots are tasked with placing the treasure in the stronghold and are prohibited from interacting with the Champions.

The Champions carry their respective flags, which may be acquired by the other Champion, once it is raised over the stronghold. The flag acts as a multiplier of the treasure stored in the stronghold.

A Champion may also place their own flag on their opponents stronghold claiming the treasure of the other alliance.

Seeding is similar to last season, where teams earn treasure points.

Jalerre 16-10-2015 15:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by P.J. (Post 1500490)
In the myths of both griffins and dragons, one recurring theme is that the creatures are obsessed with their hoards of treasure. So what if each alliance has a set "hoard" of some sort (tennis balls?). They each begin the game with a certain amount of treasure, maybe spread through a few different goals/baskets/scoring areas and they have to both protect their "hoard" while trying to steal from the "hoard" of the other alliance. What would one use to protect their hoard? A stronghold, of course.

I really like this idea and I think it matches the name and theme well. I'm imagining a really defense heavy game.

Jacob Bendicksen 16-10-2015 16:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rick.oliver (Post 1500497)
I wonder, when was cheesecake first served?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wikipedia
An ancient form of cheesecake may have been a popular dish in ancient Greece even prior to Romans' adoption of it with the conquest of Greece. The earliest attested mention of a cheesecake is by the Greek physician Aegimus, who wrote a book on the art of making cheesecakes (πλακουντοποιικόν σύγγραμμα—plakountopoiikon suggramma). The earliest extant cheesecake recipes are found in Cato the Elder's De Agri Cultura, which includes recipes for two cakes for religious uses: libum and placenta. Of the two, placenta is most like most modern cheesecakes, having a crust that is separately prepared and baked.

So cheesecake was around in medieval times...

Oh no.

Foster 16-10-2015 17:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacob Bendicksen (Post 1500535)
So cheesecake was around in medieval times...

Oh no.

You should focus your research on the more important question "When did the Corn Dog first appear". We know there were sausages then, was there a batter dipped fried version back then?

E Dawg 16-10-2015 17:29

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Quote:

Of the two, placenta is most like most modern cheesecakes, having a crust that is separately prepared and baked.
Placenta = pregnancy.

9 month long build season confirmed.

Jared Russell 16-10-2015 17:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Foster (Post 1500544)
You should focus your research on the more important question "When did the Corn Dog first appear". We know there were sausages then, was there a batter dipped fried version back then?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn_dog#History

BOCsouthpaw 16-10-2015 18:01

Re: Thoughts on the teaser?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1500078)
What do you do with strongholds? Attack them and knock them down. Or defend them and repair them.

My thought is that it could mean you need a Strong Hold on something.

JB987 16-10-2015 18:07

Re: Thoughts on the teaser?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BOCsouthpaw (Post 1500548)
My thought is that it could mean you need a Strong Hold on something.

As I also wondered. Maybe a strong hold on a pole or cross bar?

GaryVoshol 16-10-2015 19:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BOCsouthpaw (Post 1500548)
My thought is that it could mean you need a Strong Hold on something.

Unlimited pinning. :eek:

Trey178 16-10-2015 19:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1500078)
What do you do with strongholds? Attack them and knock them down. Or defend them and repair them?


What about lifting yourself onto the stronghold? I love watching teams take on a hanging/climbing feature.

CurlyFries 16-10-2015 20:59

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A few observations/ponderances (not sure if these have already been stated)

1. There are blue, red, AND yellow flags on the tents. Probably not three alliances, but then what are they?
2. You never see an opposing alliance in the video.
3. If the name really is "Stronghold" this year, that is starkly different than past game names, where the pattern is "adjective noun" (two words). Does this mean big changes?
4. At the end of the video, it says "prepare for the challenge now" keyword being CHALLENGE. Why would the video makers choose this word over "battle" or others, escpecially if the running theory is that this is a vs. game?

Alex Chamberlin 17-10-2015 12:55

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Some things I've noticed if the blueprint is the field map. (See attachment)

On to the video:
They used the words together and challenger, so most likely the alliance will put forth one bot to do a task the others can't.
Cooperition is in full swing, perhaps in the form of "Killing" the dragon.
First likes throwing things (noodles Frisbees exercise balls moon rocks ect.) there will likely be some form of bombardment.

bEdhEd 17-10-2015 14:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CadetGizmo (Post 1500277)
Another thing I'm curious about is how the teaser image says "Build your champion."

I'm quite certain that the "champion" in the video is your team's competition robot.


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