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runneals 17-10-2015 18:16
Re: Official FIRST Stronghold Teaser!
 
I just came across Stronghold that may or may not have been what the GDC based the game off of... The logo looks similar, but my team said "No Boots", so I guess you can take it or leave it... :D

kpaul 17-10-2015 18:59
Re: Official FIRST Stronghold Teaser!
 
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Originally Posted by HedgeHogGal99 (Post 1500098)
My first thought after seeing the teaser was "Are our robots going to be jousting each other??"
Same. I showed this video to a bunch of non-frc friends and they said that too.

GeeTwo 18-10-2015 00:09
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While cooking dinner this evening, I pulled a bunch of pieces together in my mind:
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Originally Posted by Hallry (Post 1500070)
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Originally Posted by TheThings (Post 1500073)
Capture the flag
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Originally Posted by stoutman777 (Post 1500109)
My guess would be some sort of tower defense game possibly?
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Originally Posted by Hgree56 (Post 1500116)
Just a thought: The video said "Face this task together" and showed a second "team" or "Alliance." Does this mean return of an end game like in 2012 where alliances have to tag-team to do it?
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Originally Posted by OpalStone (Post 1500130)
I'm considering the flag element may be similar to 2011 Logomotion with the minibots. Thoughts?
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Originally Posted by GeeTwo (Post 1500169)
Maybe you need to build a pacifier to turn everyone into infants...
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Originally Posted by Mitchell1714 (Post 1500189)
7. The new improved plowie [sic] is made out of stones from the castle.

9. At 42 seconds the robot's arms are in a karate fighting position. I assume this means the robot will have a manipulator come out of the bumper perimeter to interact with game pieces.
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Originally Posted by Aur0r4 (Post 1500219)
I'm surprised the dialog hasn't gotten more attention.

"Build your champion" "rally your kingdom" "Face the challenge ahead together".


I have long thought that FIRST is going to move FRC into the same format as FTC, FLL, and JR. FLL.....
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Originally Posted by RocketDean (Post 1500266)
Did anybody notice that Dozer no longer has a "dozer" and now has hands with fingers?
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Originally Posted by KeeganP (Post 1500327)
Alternatively, maybe we have another end game where you must raise the opposing flag up fastest (think 2011 but with flags, not minibots).
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Originally Posted by GeeTwo (Post 1500335)
The manipulators on Gripper (the robot in the video) seem better adapted to pick up and position a flagpole than a ball.
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Originally Posted by Trey178 (Post 1500567)
What about lifting yourself onto the stronghold? I love watching teams take on a hanging/climbing feature.
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Originally Posted by bEdhEd (Post 1500651)
I'm quite certain that the "champion" in the video is your team's competition robot.
That's what I thought, and still sort of think:

Looking even closer at Gripper's claws, they seem better at picking up small rectangular objects than round ones like balls or flagpoles. Gripper is also shown in the video at around 0:42 watching the action with the humans.

Synthesis:
Teams must build a robot which will assemble a Lego minibot from a bin of loose Lego parts. The minibot will enter the stronghold (probably also made of Legos), climb within the stronghold and fly a flag atop it.

MooreteP 18-10-2015 11:42
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Waited to post.

I'm gonna go with Flag Football.
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Originally Posted by TAlholm (Post 1500305)
tl;dr
Lunacy on carpet? Defend the trailers.
While teams in general disliked Lunacy, its game theory was interesting. While you were taking the time to score, you could be scored upon in your trailer.

FIRST logo pieces will be triangles (flags).
Each Robot will have a flag attached to it that can be taken and scored.

I'm still stuck on the Game Stop hint that Frank supplied.
Co-opertition based upon ending the game early with the alliance members agreeing to hit the E-Stops. Your score gets multiplied.
You may be losing the battle, but improve your rank with a score multiplier by calling it a day.

Boltman 18-10-2015 18:57
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Its obvious at end of video the robots arms are positioned to carry a flag. Pretty sure the robot will have to transport a flagpole to some point on the tower.

Zac Schofield 18-10-2015 20:07
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So on usfirst.org, the banner they had for Stronghold on their main page had this on it before they edited it.
http://puu.sh/kL76B/4489c4c4ed.jpg

Why was "more" Spelt "m0re"?

LlNUX 18-10-2015 20:09
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So my theory is that this year is that FIRST is gonna enforce teams to use vision tracking or cameras. Teams would have to enter the opposing alliance Stronghold to retrieve flags from it however I think there will be some kind of wall preventing humans from seeing the robot inside the stronghold so our robots are gonna need cameras to be controlled and retrieve the flags. As for an end game I think there is gonna be 2 towers on the middle of the field in which teams can rise their flags to gain extra points. That is at least how I imagine the game from the teaser shown.

kyle_hamblett 18-10-2015 20:38
Re: Official FIRST Stronghold Teaser!
 
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Originally Posted by LlNUX (Post 1500800)
So my theory is that this year is that FIRST is gonna enforce teams to use vision tracking or cameras. Teams would have to enter the opposing alliance Stronghold to retrieve flags from it however I think there will be some kind of wall preventing humans from seeing the robot inside the stronghold so our robots are gonna need cameras to be controlled and retrieve the flags.
A robot selfie stick. Problem solved.

sanddrag 18-10-2015 20:54
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I've noticed the banner appear on DoubleClick ads while browsing online. Interesting.

Mr. Rip 19-10-2015 10:31
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I think everyone should start working on TreBotchets.

JohnSchneider 19-10-2015 15:40
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Originally Posted by Mr. Rip (Post 1500876)
I think everyone should start working on TreBotchets.
I don't know that launching robots will be a part of the game :ahh:

Nevada Reno 19-10-2015 18:16
Re: Official FIRST Stronghold Teaser!
 
i think it is a capture the flag or king of the hill or battle bots

team 5430 is still trying to figure it out

Alex Chamberlin 19-10-2015 19:28
Re: Official FIRST Stronghold Teaser!
 
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Originally Posted by JohnSchneider (Post 1500917)
I don't know that launching robots will be a part of the game :ahh:
But what if it's legal. :ahh:

TheRozb 19-10-2015 20:25
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Originally Posted by Alex Chamberlin (Post 1500969)
But what if it's legal. :ahh:
Then the safety award would mean soo much more.

On another note, I really like the idea of incorporating a vision system as a 'requirement'. It seems like FRC is trying to move towards having teams build more than a epic drive base. Last year was all about the super-structure. I would not be surprised if this year involved maybe a smarter autonomous and an important vision system.

EricH 19-10-2015 20:34
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Originally Posted by sanddrag (Post 1500809)
I've noticed the banner appear on DoubleClick ads while browsing online. Interesting.
You aren't the only one. I've seen it on 2+ spots per page on occasion.


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