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BryceKarlins 14-10-2015 22:46

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Originally Posted by GeeTwo (Post 1500169)
Stronghold was the protagonsist's family name in Disney's Sky High. I think that this year's game will favor Technopaths. Maybe you need to build a pacifier to turn everyone into infants...

Jeez. That's a throw back! I kinda want to rewatch that now...

jvriezen 14-10-2015 22:50

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Originally Posted by logank013 (Post 1500177)
Think back to 2015 game hint. All the game hint did was reveal to a smart thinker the word "recycle".

I think last year's hint did lead to at some very good predictions prior to the kickoff: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...&postcount=411

AlexanderTheOK 14-10-2015 22:51

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Anyone think that the centre of the blueprint looks like a chain while the outer components look like heads (being looked at from the side and back)?

tindleroot 14-10-2015 22:53

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Originally Posted by Ginger Power (Post 1500173)
The Blog post title was "The Teaser is Coming"

Change is Coming...

bscharles 14-10-2015 23:05

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In many recent years, scoring happened in separate goals for each alliance, usually on opposite ends of the field (baskets in 2012, goals in 2014, etc.) I think we may see a combined goal, most likely in the center of the field (similar to Tower Power). Maybe the goal would represent a castle or other stronghold-themed element. This kind of shared scoring goal, with separate game pieces for each alliance, means teams not only have to be good at scoring, but fast too since there would be a limited number of game pieces able to be scored.

tealmini 14-10-2015 23:08

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What about a robot activated drawbridge? Two robots on the alliance needed to make it so the third member could pass. Or two robots on the opposing alliances needed to open bridge/ field barrier- part of the co-op. Also, what if raising a yellow flag means points for both alliances instead of just one? Anther thing-notice the swirls on one side of the field and the flaps where the swirls should be on the other side- what if robots need to do something at the swirls like sit there to open up the flaps and enable scoring?

Mitchell1714 14-10-2015 23:12

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A few observations after watching 10 times:

1. The beginning of the video where all the students are around the tents appears to resemble the pits and they later go to the field.
2. At 20 seconds there are 6 students in blue and 1 mentor in red looking at the robot in the pits. At 41 seconds there are 6 students and no mentor driving the robot. Will the GDC change the rules to disallow mentors to be robo-coaches?
3. At 41 seconds it is clear this is the drive team. 2 students have xbox controllers and are driving the robot. 1 student is in between the drivers instructing them. 1 student is standing off to the side with a flag, human player with game piece? Then there are 2 students in the back with their hands in the air as fists, what are they doing? Are they on the drive team?
4. The robot has 8 wheel tank drive. That was done on purpose, it would be easier to animate a 4 wheel or 6 wheel tank drive so there must be some driving obstacle.
5. In "the pits" in the beginning you can see the tower. There will likely be a large field element you can see from the pits.
6. Also in "the pits" in the beginning of the video, some tents (individual teams pits) have blue, red, or yellow flags, some have no flags. Why would we need to put flags in our pits? Could it be to symbolize what position in the game we are playing,ranking in qualification matches, something else?
7. The new improved plowie is made out of stones from the castle. Will a robot itself be the Stronghold?
8. At 23 seconds, why are 2 students putting a flag over the robot and at 25 seconds why is a student taking a brush to the robot? These 2 events are completely unrelated to the story-line.
9. At 42 seconds the robot's arms are in a karate fighting position. I assume this means the robot will have a manipulator come out of the bumper perimeter to interact with game pieces.
10.The video has a lot of flags in it. Will they be the game piece?
11. I have not figured out the blueprints yet.

These are just some ideas from the first hour of thinking about it. Don't take them too seriously.

Trey178 14-10-2015 23:15

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Originally Posted by bscharles (Post 1500186)
I think we may see a combined goal, most likely in the center of the field (similar to Tower Power). Maybe the goal would represent a castle or other stronghold-themed element. This kind of shared scoring goal, with separate game pieces for each alliance, means teams not only have to be good at scoring, but fast too since there would be a limited number of game pieces able to be scored.

Last time I can remember a center field goal was 2007's Rack 'n' Roll. Would be interesting to see it again.

microbuns 14-10-2015 23:20

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Blueprints look too much like a field diagram to not be one...

And the game seems to be capture the flag - opening shot being a flag, then the castle with the flag. Halfway though, the flag is gone from the castle and there is darkness and lightning -> evil/bad. Their flag got stolen. I'd be shocked if stealing flags is not part of this game.

Our team is looking forward to the branding opportunities with this game :P

SoulianPride 14-10-2015 23:21

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It's probably just me, but 'the teaser is coming' and a medieval setting have me thinking Game of Thrones, but on another note, I'm leaning towards Capture the Flag and King of the Hill.

Poseidon5817 14-10-2015 23:23

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Originally Posted by GeeTwo (Post 1500169)
Stronghold was the protagonsist's family name in Disney's Sky High. I think that this year's game will favor Technopaths (the Stronghold Family's arch enemy is Royal Pain, a tecnopath, an individual who can control technology through mental processes). Maybe you need to build a pacifier to turn everyone into infants...

OBTW, do you know who did the video? - yes, Disney! Finally, if anyone doubts Disney's resolve at pulling wild back-references, look at the scene where they show the old Sky High yearbook. The photo of Pere Stronghold is very clearly borrowed from The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes, a Disney movie from the late 60's.

The primary alternative to technopathy is that the robot will be required, like Will Stronghold, to have both super-strength and the ability to fly.

Beat me to it.

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Originally Posted by Mitchell1714 (Post 1500189)
A few observations after watching 10 times:
2. At 20 seconds there are 6 students in blue and 1 mentor in red looking at the robot in the pits. At 41 seconds there are 6 students and no mentor driving the robot. Will the GDC change the rules to disallow mentors to be robo-coaches?

This is an interesting idea also. It seems like more teams have been having student drive coaches recently.

Jakenan 14-10-2015 23:31

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Launching?

indubitably 14-10-2015 23:36

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Halo 5 has a game mode called Strongholds:
https://youtu.be/lbM5B7yesuI

Using Halo's definition of what a stronghold is would lead you to believe that there is a location to be "captured"

If the blueprint really is representative of the game field then maybe the large central structure will fly the flag of the team that has "captured" it by dumping/shooting game pieces into it or something.

Pereichi 14-10-2015 23:37

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In the "Capture the Flag" idea as the video seems to be hinting too, the original rules to Capture the Flag is to capture your opponent's flag. If caught in an opponents territory players are brought to jail and can only be saved by a teammate who can free them.

Do you think if the game does have relationships to Capture the flag that their could be a sort of jail type thing? where someone must rescue you, Just a theory, but would make for some serious teamwork.

Also in the game their are safe zones in your territory, Their could also be some kind of area like this in this game as well.

TheRozb 14-10-2015 23:40

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Originally Posted by Jakenan (Post 1500195)
Launching?

That image though... I'm crying. It looks waay to much like a mobile game. And, like you pointed out, "Launching"? Is FRC, for their 25th year anniversary, doing a massive change? I mean, they talked about having a wider appeal beyond just the FRC FIRST community.

I'm probably overanalyzing this


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