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waialua359 28-10-2015 16:44

Re: Awards and Trophie alternative
 
There is already enough off-season events to have specialized, unique trophies.

The trophies being the same style and uniform at all regular FRC regionals, district competitions, and the Championship is fine as is.
If teams want more than 1 per award, they have the option to purchase them already.

EricH 28-10-2015 20:01

Re: Awards and Trophy alternative
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jvriezen (Post 1502041)
The original proposal had the benefit that FIRST didn't pay for the trophies (willing teams build them) and neither FIRST nor event planners had to do very much, other collect the trophies, get a group of willing team reps together to pick which ones to use, and get the unused ones back to the teams. Event staff would also have to affix FIRST provided brass plates to the chosen trophies.

The bold part is the first problem.

Let me put it this way: You're asking teams to volunteer to do something that a) might not be used, b) takes time, probably a lot of time, and c) has little or no benefit to the teams that do it. You're asking event staff to essentially do an extra round of judging to figure what's "good enough", AND then to figure out which of the "good enough" ones go to which award, AND do some assembly.

And then you run into the problem of teams NOT volunteering... which means you've got to make and ship the trophies anyways, just in case.


You're going to have to come up with a much better incentive for the teams to volunteer in the first place--for the vast majority of teams, it just isn't worth the attempt. (If you're thinking of requiring submission--the rookie teams and a fair number of veteran teams aren't going to be able to, no matter what you do.) And then I believe I hear the Judge Advisers and Volunteer Coordinators calling you--they want you to do the judging/assigning/assembling, something about they're shorthanded again. "Willing team reps" means, in most cases, "mandatory volunteering", which if you can probably guess really means that you get UNwilling team reps.



This proposal makes sense for precisely two places: Offseason events (which do their own awards anyway) and team-awarded peer awards (which individual teams decide to do, build, and do).


That being said, I wouldn't mind seeing a competition for trophy design, and having trophies MADE locally, if that could be arranged. Just not made by teams--leave that to the pros.

Sperkowsky 28-10-2015 20:18

Re: Awards and Trophie alternative
 
Not to mention isn't the most expensive part by far on First trophies the Brass plate?

pmangels17 29-10-2015 00:45

Re: Awards and Trophie alternative
 
HQ provided trophies sound good to me. Teams pay their registration fees directly to FIRST, and from what I understand, events don't get a lot of that money. So, frankly, I'd rather have my registration money fund my trophy than the event committee that's already trying to make ends meet.

IKE 29-10-2015 10:24

Re: Awards and Trophie alternative
 
What are thoughts on a "traveling Cup" style trophy? Think Stanley Cup style trophy.

Knufire 29-10-2015 10:41

Re: Awards and Trophie alternative
 
I'd be down for some nicely made anodized sheet metal trophies, a la VEX.


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