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mrnoble 01-11-2015 23:15
New Products for 2016: Speculation, Wants
 
I'm enjoying watching REV release new products, and am looking forward to seeing what WCProducts, AndyMark, and Vex have up their sleeves. I would love to see an inverted CIM gearbox from somebody. What are you all looking for?

Ari423 01-11-2015 23:24
Re: New Products for 2016: Speculation, Wants
 
Im looking forward to the new motor controllers, and looking for a replacement for the 550 and 775 motors.

End-Game 01-11-2015 23:35
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I would Love to see a West Coast style Ball shifting Gearbox from VexPro, and Some really grippy Rubber Wheels to replace the Banebots wheels that we are so rapidly running out of.

asid61 02-11-2015 00:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by End-Game (Post 1502726)
I would Love to see a West Coast style Ball shifting Gearbox from VexPro, and Some really grippy Rubber Wheels to replace the Banebots wheels that we are so rapidly running out of.
They already sell a WCD ballshifter attachment. The third stage functions as one.

I want to see more GT2 belts, lightened 32P gears (the WCP ones are solid and heavy), a more efficient/ less noisy versaplanetary, cycloidal gearboxes, a built-in versaplanetary encoder stage, a 16t, 22t, and 26t gear, more ballshifter gears (perhaps smaller than 34t?), cheap encoders (please?), and more rangefinders (IR and unltrasonic mostly).

Knufire 02-11-2015 00:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by asid61 (Post 1502736)
They already sell a WCD ballshifter attachment. The third stage functions as one.

I want to see more GT2 belts, lightened 32P gears (the WCP ones are solid and heavy), a more efficient/ less noisy versaplanetary, cycloidal gearboxes, a built-in versaplanetary encoder stage, a 16t, 22t, and 26t gear, more ballshifter gears (perhaps smaller than 34t?), cheap encoders (please?), and more rangefinders (IR and unltrasonic mostly).
SDP-SI should have any GT2 belt you could possibly need.

Richard.Varone 02-11-2015 00:55
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I'd love if Vex had a 28t gear in 1/2"Hex, 3/8" Hex, and 1/2" round.

asid61 02-11-2015 00:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Knufire (Post 1502738)
SDP-SI should have any GT2 belt you could possibly need.
Often out of stock and takes weeks to ship. We used them this year, but I would prefer a more reliable supplier.

R.C. 02-11-2015 00:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by asid61 (Post 1502740)
Often out of stock and takes weeks to ship. We used them this year, but I would prefer a more reliable supplier.
We've used BB-Man and they've been pretty fast. But again we just use the 15mm wide pulleys and belts from VEX/WCP to make life easier.

Knufire 02-11-2015 01:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by asid61 (Post 1502740)
Often out of stock and takes weeks to ship. We used them this year, but I would prefer a more reliable supplier.
Really? I've never had a problem with their shipping speed, definitely got products within a week the last two build seasons. I've designed around what products they have in stock though, the product lookup tied to the center distance calculator makes that pretty easy to go up/down a size at a time.

AdamHeard 02-11-2015 01:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by asid61 (Post 1502736)
They already sell a WCD ballshifter attachment. The third stage functions as one.

I want to see more GT2 belts, lightened 32P gears (the WCP ones are solid and heavy), a more efficient/ less noisy versaplanetary, cycloidal gearboxes, a built-in versaplanetary encoder stage, a 16t, 22t, and 26t gear, more ballshifter gears (perhaps smaller than 34t?), cheap encoders (please?), and more rangefinders (IR and unltrasonic mostly).
Has the efficiency of the versaplanet been causing issues for you?

asid61 02-11-2015 01:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 1502744)
Has the efficiency of the versaplanet been causing issues for you?
It's very noisy compared to the custom gearboxes that other teams use, and was especially noticable on our elevator this year. Most of the noise of our robot running came from the versaplanetary and the compressor fan. I need to get around to testing the actual efficiency one day, but at the moment the noise alone makes me wish for a change.

Oblarg 02-11-2015 02:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by asid61 (Post 1502745)
It's very noisy compared to the custom gearboxes that other teams use, and was especially noticable on our elevator this year. Most of the noise of our robot running came from the versaplanetary and the compressor fan. I need to get around to testing the actual efficiency one day, but at the moment the noise alone makes me wish for a change.
I can second this, they're so loud that I'm always worried that something's wrong with them. On that note, I've seen far more failures of versaplanetaries than of any other stock FRC gearbox. They're a really nice idea, I just haven't had good luck with them.

pwnageNick 02-11-2015 09:38
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I'd rather have a noisy gearbox then one that doesn't work as well, but maybe that's just me...

Especially considering the VP isn't as loud as common COTS gearboxes in the past.

Daniel_LaFleur 02-11-2015 09:46
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I'd love to see an electronic pressure controller or electronic variable pneumatic regulator.

Lil' Lavery 02-11-2015 09:52
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I think the only issues we've ever had with VersaPlanetaries have been related to misuse or improper assembly.


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