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Michael Hill 04-11-2015 18:46

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Originally Posted by Cory (Post 1503206)
Ah yes, the next step forward in making FRC more professional and attractive to television and outsiders.

I think this is similar to stickers on college football helmets. If done right, it doesn't have to look dumb.

Knufire 04-11-2015 18:48

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Originally Posted by Michael Hill (Post 1503222)
I think this is similar to stickers on college football helmets. If done right, it doesn't have to look dumb.

But will most teams do it right?

James1902 04-11-2015 18:54

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Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber (Post 1503221)
Can we maybe address the abysmal/decentralized webcasts, lack of recorded footage, high cost of participation, lack of quality control at events, abusive volunteers... ?

I would wager that giving teams the option to add a banner above their driver station has absolutely no effect on FIRST's ability or willingness to address those issues.

I would like to see those problems fixed as well, but it doesn't mean that FIRST should do absolutely nothing until they are addressed to our satisfaction. This would be akin to saying the Red Cross shouldn't run fundraising efforts to combat malaria until the bubonic plague is completely eradicated.

PayneTrain 04-11-2015 18:54

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Originally Posted by Knufire (Post 1503223)
But will most teams do it right?

I don't think this will be executed with the same successful uniformity of bumpers of that's what you're saying ;)

Andrew Schreiber 04-11-2015 18:57

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Originally Posted by James1902 (Post 1503224)
I would wager that giving teams the option to add a banner above their driver station has absolutely no effect on FIRST's ability or willingness to address those issues.

I would like to see those problems fixed as well, but it doesn't mean that FIRST should do absolutely nothing until they are addressed to our satisfaction. This would be akin to saying the Red Cross shouldn't run fundraising efforts to combat malaria until the bubonic plague is completely eradicated.

In place of the banners add a Go Pro tied to the FMS to start and stop it... There you go, recorded footage fixed except for these pesky banners.

I'm being facetious of course, but the point is that the thought and effort that went into this could easily have been used for something more useful. It's more akin to saying the Red Cross should stop throwing cocktail parties for poodles until the bubonic plague is eradicated.

JB987 04-11-2015 18:58

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Can't wait to bring our trumpet heralds to accompany our drive team from pit to que:D

EricLeifermann 04-11-2015 19:00

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Originally Posted by JB987 (Post 1503229)
Can't wait to bring our trumpet heralds to accompany our drive team from pit to que:D

While trumpeting you can also have your crier shout ROBOT!!!

mwmac 04-11-2015 19:06

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Originally Posted by JB987 (Post 1503229)
Can't wait to bring our trumpet heralds to accompany our drive team from pit to que:D

Don't forget to bring the coconut shells, I mean horses.:)

James1902 04-11-2015 19:06

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Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber (Post 1503227)
In place of the banners add a Go Pro tied to the FMS to start and stop it... There you go, recorded footage fixed except for these pesky banners.

I'm being facetious of course, but the point is that the thought and effort that went into this could easily have been used for something more useful. It's more akin to saying the Red Cross should stop throwing cocktail parties for poodles until the bubonic plague is eradicated.

I would totally donate money towards bubonic plague eradication if it meant I could attend a poodle cocktail party...

I think our main point of disagreement is the amount of thought or effort that FIRST put into this. I don't think it was a big enough brain drain to be detrimental to HQ's efforts to fix those problems.

JohnSchneider 04-11-2015 19:11

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I almost wish everyone had to submit their team logo and like 2 color choices and FIRST would make/print them so they all look uniform. I think that would be the correct way to do it and make it look professional.

most teams can't even make good looking bumpers....

EDesbiens 04-11-2015 19:11

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Originally Posted by mwmac (Post 1503232)
Don't forget to bring the coconut shells, I mean horses.:)

I see what you did there...;)

Liz Smith 04-11-2015 19:12

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Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber (Post 1503227)
In place of the banners add a Go Pro tied to the FMS to start and stop it... There you go, recorded footage fixed except for these pesky banners.

I'm being facetious of course, but the point is that the thought and effort that went into this could easily have been used for something more useful. It's more akin to saying the Red Cross should stop throwing cocktail parties for poodles until the bubonic plague is eradicated.

Just because they introduce one thing that new doesn't mean they aren't working on continually improving the program in other ways as well. As shown in bottom part of this blog post, webcasts, for one, are on the agenda for improvement:
http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...-SCENES-AT-IRI
I think us here in Indiana like the pilot program trial for webcasts we did last year and are hoping something similar continues in the future. If not centralized by FIRST we will work as a district to provide a similar setup at our events.

But, more on the actual topic... My team is very excited to create a team standard and love the idea of acquiring patches and streamers throughout the year. Learning about this now helps us get even more enthusiastic about this year's game theme.

Mark Sheridan 04-11-2015 19:13

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Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber (Post 1503227)
In place of the banners add a Go Pro tied to the FMS to start and stop it... There you go, recorded footage fixed except for these pesky banners.

But what about the 125 potato?


In all seriousness, having a camera there would be good. That got me thinking that these standards are going to block the view of the field in stadiums.

Jay O'Donnell 04-11-2015 19:15

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Originally Posted by Mark Sheridan (Post 1503239)
In all seriousness, having a camera there would be good. That got me thinking that these standards are going to block the view of the field in stadiums.

No more than some field elements have in the past (2013,2011,2006,etc.). Also check out the sizes, they aren't that big.

Steven Donow 04-11-2015 19:27

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Originally Posted by Mark Sheridan (Post 1503239)
But what about the 125 potato?

RIP


But in all seriousness, while the intent is cool, I'm becoming more and more hesitant about this medieval theme. FIRST seems to be going too strong with it, and the season hasn't even started yet.


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