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crew, opponent drivers, or audience members. During a match, the Standard must be fixed, physically and visually (i.e. no strobing, flashing, etc.)." |
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Oh, and what about a bonus for teams which can properly describe their banners in heraldic language? Gules, a tiger rampant, surmounting a sprocket of nine teeth argent.. |
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I think giving teams a better opportunity to brand themselves in the area of the field your average spectator would look for your team is great. However, the odds that many teams don't make very quality/professional looking ones will give it somewhat of a school project kind of feel. Add the theme part of it being like a medieval banner and it could turn prospective high school students interested in the program away. As far as those saying if you don't like it, don't do it; that just doesn't make sense. Good teams aren't going to want to miss out on branding their team and standing out for having a better looking more professional banner. I think a better idea especially in years to come would be to have a sign area that can be at the top of your drive station glass that can have your name and logo, similar looking to an end zone in football, etc. Simpler, and it could even be a standardized template that FIRST so that the quality of them from team to team doesn't differ much. |
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-- <3lb total weight (and that includes the supports). -- <3" thick (not a big deal, for most electronics). -- Flexible material (the banner portion, that is)--wires flex, though. -- And the big one: during matches, it must be fixed physically and visually. (There's also the standard "no distracting opponents" language, but that's kind of a side thing.) What I would take that to mean would be that if there was a flashing light, or a color changing light, particularly if it was distracting, the field staff would have a friendly chat after the match. (Though there's nothing about BETWEEN matches, displaying while not in a match, and any time not in a match. Important note.) That being said, if you can do electronics within the requirements (er, "standard standards" :p ), why not? |
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Personally, my mind filled with negative thoughts when I started reading the blogs post, but at the mention of badges and other symbols given at competitions, I'm optimistic.
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Why don't we just make the theme of a robotics competition ...a robotics competition? |
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Did I mention that I'm loving this theme?
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I think we need to look at this in another way... We should talk about the fact that this will straighten teams branding and that it will help anyone watching the matches to figure out which team is which (A lot of people don't know the team numbers at a competition... It can help to see a logo above the team number and to be able to match it with a robot...). |
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Alternately, while they can't have retroreflective tape, there's many ways these could be used for vision targets. This could be a feasible way to make a full-field positioning system like [faust1706] and other have been talking about for a couple of years now. Make two banners and give them to your alliance partners in stations 1 and 3, then mount a camera on top of your robot. Unless we have another stacking game or some serious field element clutter, pretty good visibility could be maintained. |
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Id say there is a 80% chance they are going to say it has to be decorative. There is always a gray area with this sort of stuff no matter what regulations FIRST sets forth.
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I'd be inclined to agree: no bigger than allowed--that means some batteries in there to power everything, and batteries aren't the lightest things in the world as a general rule. Though I do agree on the use of standards as vision targets. As currently written, there is nothing that would prohibit that (though Ryan's suggestion of giving partners standards is probably going to be pushing it; after last year's cheesecake epidemic, I would expect a mild rules/interpretations tightening). I wouldn't be surprised to see some teams with several variations of standards... |
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I think that they'll soon add a rule saying : "You can only use a standard representing your team"... |
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