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mipo0707 10-11-2015 13:51

Top regional winners
 
1. 254 - 29 Regional wins
2. 1114 - 26 Regional wins
3. 2056 - 22 Regional wins
4. 67 - 21 Regional wins
5. 359 and 469 - 17 Regional wins
6. 118 - 16 Regional wins
7. 33 and 16 and 148 - 14 Regional wins
8. 233 and 217 - 12 Regional wins
9. 111 and 987 - 11 Regional wins
10. 1717 and 1983 - 10 Regional wins

67 and 469 are different on tba because the DCMP were counted too

orangemoore 10-11-2015 13:52

Re: Top regional winners
 
What is point of this?

Darkseer54 10-11-2015 13:56

Re: Top regional winners
 
Yes, I too read The Blue Alliance.

mipo0707 10-11-2015 13:59

Re: Top regional winners
 
It is too show that the tba insights page is wrong

R.C. 10-11-2015 14:02

Re: Top regional winners
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mipo0707 (Post 1504305)
It is too show that the tba insights page is wrong

You know you can email the folks at tba?

Jay O'Donnell 10-11-2015 14:05

Re: Top regional winners
 
Some people consider DCMP the same as a regional.

Taylor 10-11-2015 14:06

Re: Top regional winners
 
Perhaps it would be interesting to look at percentages of regionals played & won vs number of regionals won. It would reduce the impact of the teams' ages.

Karthik 10-11-2015 14:08

Re: Top regional winners
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taylor (Post 1504309)
Perhaps it would be interesting to look at percentages of regionals played & won vs number of regionals won. It would reduce the impact of the teams' ages.

2056 - 100% :)

Brian Maher 10-11-2015 14:15

Re: Top regional winners
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by R.C. (Post 1504306)
You know you can email the folks at tba?

They're also pretty attentive on the #moardata @ The Blue Alliance Facebook group.

Joe Ross 10-11-2015 16:01

Re: Top regional winners
 
Where did you come up with the teams on your list? Here are some other teams with 10 or more regional wins:

175, 330, 1986.

MaGiC_PiKaChU 10-11-2015 17:02

Re: Top regional winners
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karthik (Post 1504310)
2056 - 100% :)

With WATER even more stacked than last year, I hope they can keep it that way :yikes:

tindleroot 10-11-2015 20:06

Re: Top regional winners
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay O'Donnell (Post 1504307)
Some people consider DCMP the same as a regional.

I believe "some people" includes FIRST in this case.

Jay O'Donnell 10-11-2015 20:16

Re: Top regional winners
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tindleroot (Post 1504356)
I believe "some people" includes FIRST in this case.

Not sure if TBA statistics (that are just made because people enjoy them) are FIRST official. Anyone know for sure?

tindleroot 10-11-2015 21:39

Re: Top regional winners
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay O'Donnell (Post 1504359)
Not sure if TBA statistics (that are just made because people enjoy them) are FIRST official. Anyone know for sure?

The insights on TBA are made to follow "significant" trends to the FIRST community, not necessarily the same way as FIRST records them. (Some of the stats are not even recorded by FIRST, rather TBA calculated them directly from regional data)

Blue Banners, Championship Wins, and Chairman's are self explanatory. Regional and District wins also includes District Championships even though the title does not explicitly say so (I agree that it SHOULD include DCMPs), and the successful teamups include every alliance that wins a blue banner: Regional, District, DCMP, CMP Division, and Einstein. This is why a lot of "odd" combos pop up - 254 and 111, for example, are credited with 3 successful teamups due to an Einstein appearance together in 2001 and a Einstein win in 2011. Expect them to win together again in 2021. :) I feel like World champs alliances should not be counted twice in this stat, but it is how it is.

Edxu 10-11-2015 22:07

Re: Top regional winners
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MaGiC_PiKaChU (Post 1504328)
With WATER even more stacked than last year, I hope they can keep it that way :yikes:

#IFIAlliance first seed?

MaGiC_PiKaChU 10-11-2015 23:22

Re: Top regional winners
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Edxu (Post 1504375)
#IFIAlliance first seed?

Just saying 1114, 2056, 148 and 610 can't all be in alliance #1 :yikes:
Looks like the regional is stronger than a world subdivision

BBray_T1296 10-11-2015 23:35

Re: Top regional winners
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MaGiC_PiKaChU (Post 1504381)
Just saying 1114, 2056, 148 and 610 can't all be in alliance #1 :yikes:
Looks like the regional is stronger than a world subdivision

This brought me back to this picture from before my time



Team IFI has changed since then...

BrennanB 11-11-2015 03:37

Re: Top regional winners
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay O'Donnell (Post 1504359)
Not sure if TBA statistics (that are just made because people enjoy them) are FIRST official. Anyone know for sure?

Having worked with a lot of the TBA data, people should really know that lots of 2005 data is non-existent. I don't know why... It just is. TBA data I would assume is compiled by TBA and it's databases, I doubt FIRST would be interested in keeping track of such information for themselves.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaGiC_PiKaChU (Post 1504381)
Just saying 1114, 2056, 148 and 610 can't all be in alliance #1 :yikes:
Looks like the regional is stronger than a world subdivision

This might be a slight overstatement.

Koko Ed 11-11-2015 05:55

Re: Top regional winners
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karthik (Post 1504310)
2056 - 100% :)

2056 drop the mike.

Koko Ed 11-11-2015 05:56

Re: Top regional winners
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BBray_T1296 (Post 1504384)
This brought me back to this picture from before my time



Team IFI has changed since then...

TEAM IFI: All your banners belong to us.

jspatz1 11-11-2015 23:55

Re: Top regional winners
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Ross (Post 1504320)
Where did you come up with the teams on your list? Here are some other teams with 10 or more regional wins:

175, 330, 1986.

Correct. 1986 is currently at 11 regional wins.

Pauline Tasci 12-11-2015 00:22

Re: Top regional winners
 
Always a shocker to people when we tell everyone we have won more division wins than regional wins... (2-1)

PayneTrain 12-11-2015 00:49

Re: Top regional winners
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paunatime (Post 1504630)
Always a shocker to people when we tell everyone we have won more division wins than regional wins... (2-1)


Michael Corsetto 12-11-2015 08:47

Re: Top regional winners
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paunatime (Post 1504630)
Always a shocker to people when we tell everyone we have won more division wins than regional wins... (2-1)

1671 has more World Championship wins than Regional Wins (1-0).

Andrew Schreiber 12-11-2015 09:24

Re: Top regional winners
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrennanB (Post 1504409)
Having worked with a lot of the TBA data, people should really know that lots of 2005 data is non-existent. I don't know why... It just is. TBA data I would assume is compiled by TBA and it's databases, I doubt FIRST would be interested in keeping track of such information for themselves.

Some of the match data from that year just doesn't really exist. Or it's in really weird formats. Or it's just flat out wrong. (On FIRST's own pages)

Noudvanbrunscho 12-11-2015 09:37

Re: Top regional winners
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Corsetto (Post 1504694)
1671 has more World Championship wins than Regional Wins (1-0).

I had to check this to believe it, that's so cool.:eek:

BrennanB 12-11-2015 22:35

Re: Top regional winners
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber (Post 1504700)
Some of the match data from that year just doesn't really exist. Or it's in really weird formats. Or it's just flat out wrong. (On FIRST's own pages)

Just weird that it happened over multiple events in the same year. Some FMS bug or something?

PayneTrain 13-11-2015 02:03

Re: Top regional winners
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marcusbernstein (Post 1504945)
Don't forget that 5012 has more championship wins than points scored in elims at champs in 2015

You must be great at parties.

runneals 13-11-2015 02:57

Re: Top regional winners
 
I'm working on building an open data portal for my day job and it has functionality in it where you would be able to chart by columns, so you could do on the fly charting based on whatever you wanted to see (such as # of matches played, number of teams by year, a team's average event score.... Would something like that be a cool idea or something that you wouldn't be interested in? I can push it up to github as a feature request if so.

Andrew Schreiber 13-11-2015 08:08

Re: Top regional winners
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrennanB (Post 1504894)
Just weird that it happened over multiple events in the same year. Some FMS bug or something?

Possible. Also possible that the events didn't have internet and the data was never saved. Or that it was corrupted. I mean, that was 10 years ago.

Taylor 13-11-2015 08:10

Re: Top regional winners
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MaGiC_PiKaChU (Post 1504381)
Just saying 1114, 2056, 148 and 610 can't all be in alliance #1 :yikes:

Why not? I can think of several scenarios in which that could happen.

Karthik 13-11-2015 14:53

Re: Top regional winners
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber (Post 1504971)
Possible. Also possible that the events didn't have internet and the data was never saved. Or that it was corrupted. I mean, that was 10 years ago.

2005 was the first year of a new FMS. There were some issues with data reporting that year.

tindleroot 13-11-2015 16:04

Re: Top regional winners
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taylor (Post 1504972)
Why not? I can think of several scenarios in which that could happen.

Unless FIRST is changing alliances this year, only 3 of those 4 can be on the #1 alliance.

Knufire 13-11-2015 16:09

Re: Top regional winners
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tindleroot (Post 1505062)
Unless FIRST is changing alliances this year, only 3 of those 4 can be on the #1 alliance.

I've seen 4 team alliances before as well (pssst, check your signature).

tindleroot 13-11-2015 16:29

Re: Top regional winners
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Knufire (Post 1505063)
I've seen 4 team alliances before as well (pssst, check your signature).

Not at the Waterloo Regional, though.
Edit: Never mind. (Think before you post)

Mr. Lim 14-11-2015 02:23

Re: Top regional winners
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tindleroot (Post 1505066)
Not at the Waterloo Regional, though.
Edit: Never mind. (Think before you post)

Ontario is a strange place.

We just had an off-season event where 1310 didn't even make it to the eliminations despite being North Bay Regional winners, possessing a solid 3 tote auto, and a good landfill robot capable of putting up multiple capped, noodled 6-stacks.

Anything's possible... (except 2056 losing a regional)

Koko Ed 14-11-2015 05:47

Re: Top regional winners
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karthik (Post 1505045)
2005 was the first year of a new FMS. There were some issues with data reporting that year.

FLR 2005 had a very rough event with the Hatch scoring system that year.
Thank God for Joe Ross.


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