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ghesla 11-19-2015 12:20 PM

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New motor controller legal for 2016 season!

SPARK from REV Robotics

Bruceb 11-19-2015 12:21 PM

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thanks Ya I found it in the bar at the top of FC along with the login button

AdamHeard 11-19-2015 12:22 PM

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Anyone else unable to add the Fluke meter to priority list?

EDIT: That works now, but Pressure switch won't let me add...

sanddrag 11-19-2015 12:24 PM

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Anybody have a spreadsheet of all the items, quantities, and costs yet? :D

Disappointed to not see the nVidia graphics cards return. Overall pretty decent offerings once again though. It's nice to see some pneumatic cylinders.

AllenGregoryIV 11-19-2015 12:29 PM

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Looked through list not much different then last year.

Key take aways
- PDP, VRM, and PCM won't be in the veteran kits this year. That's means teams either get them in FC, buy them, or pull them off last year's robot. Only a 1000 of each in FC and 3000+ teams worldwide now.
- Talon SRX, Victor SP, and Spark are all the same FC credit yet price per piece varies a lot in the open market.
- This adapter I believe will power the new openmesh radios. It looks like the barrel is the correct size.
- New automotive motor with feedback

Oblarg 11-19-2015 12:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1506398)
Looked through list not much different then last year.

Key take aways
- PDP, VRM, and PCM won't be in the veteran kits this year. That's means teams either get them in FC, buy them, or pull them off last year's robot. Only a 1000 of each in FC and 3000+ teams worldwide now.
- Talon SRX, Victor SP, and Spark are all the same FC credit yet price per piece varies a lot in the open market.
- This adapter I believe will power the new openmesh radios. It looks like the barrel is the correct size.
- New automotive motor with feedback

Oh wow, a window motor with built-in position sensing? Dream come true.

I've always felt those motors were very useful and under-appreciated.

Mark McLeod 11-19-2015 12:53 PM

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2 Attachment(s)
Here's a spreadsheet.

Another sheet with most of the prices.

Mark McLeod 11-19-2015 12:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1506398)
Key take aways
- PDP, VRM, and PCM won't be in the veteran kits this year.

I think the VRM might possibly still end up in the KOP this year.
We're beta testing a VRM with a slightly revised circuit to make the radio power even more robust.
We're doing some stress testing now.
The old VRM does also work fine with the new OpenMesh radio though, so maybe there will be no need to have the new model in the KOP.

marshall 11-19-2015 12:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1506403)
Here's a spreadsheet.

Needs quantity available as well. Also, would be cool to see someone workout probability of getting an item based on total number of FRC teams... though it's random and lists differ so that could be a difficult problem. Someone with math skills would need to weigh in.

AllenGregoryIV 11-19-2015 12:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1506404)
I think the VRM might possibly still be in the KOP this year.
We're beta testing a VRM with a slightly revised circuit to make the radio power even more robust.
We're doing some stress testing now.
The old VRM does also work fine with the new OpenMesh radio though.

And the VRM isn't the best deal on FC anyway at 100 credits for $46 item.

PayneTrain 11-19-2015 01:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1506398)
Looked through list not much different then last year.

Key take aways
- PDP, VRM, and PCM won't be in the veteran kits this year. That's means teams either get them in FC, buy them, or pull them off last year's robot. Only a 1000 of each in FC and 3000+ teams worldwide now.

While our list reflects this assumption, do you think there is a chance that FIRST will officially announce the status of control systems parts in the veteran KOP?

Mark McLeod 11-19-2015 01:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by marshall (Post 1506406)
Needs quantity available as well. Also, would be cool to see someone workout probability of getting an item based on total number of FRC teams... though it's random and lists differ so that could be a difficult problem. Someone with math skills would need to weigh in.

Added quantities.
I won't finish prices for awhile.

AllenGregoryIV 11-19-2015 01:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PayneTrain (Post 1506412)
While our list reflects this assumption, do you think there is a chance that FIRST will officially announce the status of control systems parts in the veteran KOP?

On each item page it says if the item is going to be in the kit of parts or not. For these three control system parts they specifically say they will only be in the rookie kit. Unless this is a mistake on FIRST's part, I don't think this is an assumption.

Edit: Looks like the Spark motor controller was just removed. It's page wasn't loading earlier at one point but you could add it to your priority list.

Jon Stratis 11-19-2015 01:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1506398)
Looked through list not much different then last year.

Key take aways
- PDP, VRM, and PCM won't be in the veteran kits this year. That's means teams either get them in FC, buy them, or pull them off last year's robot. Only a 1000 of each in FC and 3000+ teams worldwide now.
- Talon SRX, Victor SP, and Spark are all the same FC credit yet price per piece varies a lot in the open market.
- This adapter I believe will power the new openmesh radios. It looks like the barrel is the correct size.
- New automotive motor with feedback

Where did you see that? Yes, they are available through FC, but I don't think that means they won't also be included in the KoP. These could be provided as extras for practice boys or backups for teams.

Edit: nevermind

mman1506 11-19-2015 02:44 PM

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Gee, that Pocket Toner will come in real handy.


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