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protoserge 06-12-2015 22:01

Re: HSM Express+Tormach undersized holes
 
If it's thin as aluminum foil, it is likely just the variation in the material wall thickness. As suggested, machine to a lower depth.

I wouldn't be too worried about the thin layer if it happens again. Poke it with a punch and run a deburring tool to trim the leftover and you'll be fine.

Edit: I missed the bottom height offset. That will work as well.

Now, test out some higher speeds and feeds and post some videos of the tests!

cgmv123 06-12-2015 22:28

Re: HSM Express+Tormach undersized holes
 
Bottom offset is the setting you want. Just make sure you get the sign right.

Hadi379 07-12-2015 08:42

Re: HSM Express+Tormach undersized holes
 
On the first question, I'd be willing to bet your running a roughing process for the bearing hole and it needs a finishing process to remove the remaining material.

In the second scenario, I've experienced this quite a bit on my tormach. I would either use a deburring tool to remove the foil, or set my zero for the Z axis a tad bit lower than actual zero. This happens sometimes based on how the workpiece is clamped down, which can cause the material to bow in the center, or pick up on one end.

Cory 07-12-2015 13:50

Re: HSM Express+Tormach undersized holes
 
Maybe this is a function of how HSMExpress works, but I don't really understand why this is even a problem. Aren't you hand entering a depth to cut to? Or is it selecting that depth based on the depth of the chain you selected?

If it's the former, just put in -.1875 or -.250 for a .125" wall thickness tube.

billbo911 07-12-2015 14:41

Re: HSM Express+Tormach undersized holes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cory (Post 1510375)
Maybe this is a function of how HSMExpress works, but I don't really understand why this is even a problem. Aren't you hand entering a depth to cut to? Or is it selecting that depth based on the depth of the chain you selected?

If it's the former, just put in -.1875 or -.250 for a .125" wall thickness tube.

HSMExpress selects the depth of cut based on the contour/profile you select. So, if the part being milled is modeled with a wall thickness of .125", but in reality has a wall thickness of .127", in a perfect world, the milling operation leaves .002" of aluminum at the bottom of the hole.

What I have found is that if I just set the "Bottom Height Offset" to a value of .010", then the end mill will extend .010" beyond the selected profile. This will cut the hole cleanly as long as the material being milled is less than .010" thicker than the expected .125".

R.C. 07-12-2015 14:57

Re: HSM Express+Tormach undersized holes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by billbo911 (Post 1510380)
HSMExpress selects the depth of cut based on the contour/profile you select. So, if the part being milled is modeled with a wall thickness of .125", but in reality has a wall thickness of .127", in a perfect world, the milling operation leaves .002" of aluminum at the bottom of the hole.

What I have found is that if I just set the "Bottom Height Offset" to a value of .010", then the end mill will extend .010" beyond the selected profile. This will cut the hole cleanly as long as the material being milled is less than .010" thicker than the expected .125".

Odd when I use MasterCAM for solidworks it does a similar thing by picking the depth of the chain selected. But like Cory I just over write the value and add .125 more to the depth. Especially in tubing. Is this not an option in hsm?

sanddrag 07-12-2015 15:16

Re: HSM Express+Tormach undersized holes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cory (Post 1510375)
Or is it selecting that depth based on the depth of the chain you selected?

Chains? Haha, you MasterCAM folks are funny. ;) :)

protoserge 07-12-2015 15:24

Re: HSM Express+Tormach undersized holes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by R.C. (Post 1510383)
Odd when I use MasterCAM for solidworks it does a similar thing by picking the depth of the chain selected. But like Cory I just over write the value and add .125 more to the depth. Especially in tubing. Is this not an option in hsm?

It should be covered with the "Bottom Height Offset" option.

Cory 07-12-2015 15:39

Re: HSM Express+Tormach undersized holes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sanddrag (Post 1510385)
Chains? Haha, you MasterCAM folks are funny. ;) :)

It's still a chain, even if it's selecting the feature.

Jared 07-12-2015 16:39

Re: HSM Express+Tormach undersized holes
 
I like to create a few planes in SW model for depths/clearance heights and set the toolpath to use those planes, rather than entering a bunch of offsets. This way I only have to figure out depth and clearance/retract plane locations once. The default clearance plane is a little excessive.

For depth, I would try to go as deep as possible. You'll get more rigidity and you'll use the part of the end mill that's likely used less, so you'll get more tool life.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cory (Post 1510387)
It's still a chain, even if it's selecting the feature.

HSMWorks calls them contours.


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