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wildwaffle 22-12-2015 10:20

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Does it overheat more than previous motor controllers?

Knufire 22-12-2015 13:01

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Originally Posted by wildwaffle (Post 1514159)
Does it overheat more than previous motor controllers?

http://www.ctr-electronics.com/downl...er-Testing.pdf

Bluejackets 26-12-2015 23:11

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We are considering ordering these. Our team programs in C++. Is there anything different needed programming wise to use this type of motor controller as opposed to a talon.

Ari423 26-12-2015 23:21

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Originally Posted by Bluejackets (Post 1514795)
We are considering ordering these. Our team programs in C++. Is there anything different needed programming wise to use this type of motor controller as opposed to a talon.

Talon SR? No. Talon SRX? Yes.

Also same to program (basically) as Victor 888, Victor SP, or PWM Jaguar.

Knufire 26-12-2015 23:21

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Originally Posted by Bluejackets (Post 1514795)
We are considering ordering these. Our team programs in C++. Is there anything different needed programming wise to use this type of motor controller as opposed to a talon.

Which version? (Talon, Talon SR, Talon SRX)

Bluejackets 26-12-2015 23:24

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We were thinking if the spark was similar programming as the talon, and talonSR

runneals 26-12-2015 23:25

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Originally Posted by marshall (Post 1512853)
From Small Parts to Amazon... we've come full circle.

Now when robot parts will be in Lowe's/Home Depot/Menards Stores nation-wide :P Would make it easier to fix stuff during outreach events if it breaks :P (hey, those handy HVAC duct clips worked magic for a temporary fix for a weld that came undone in the middle of a day-long outreach event :D

Tom Line 27-12-2015 10:24

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Originally Posted by Knufire (Post 1514186)

I do not see any where in that document where they talk about temperatures of the various controllers. However I'm also unaware of any controllers currently on the market that will overheat when utilized correctly.

Ari423 27-12-2015 11:04

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Originally Posted by Tom Line (Post 1514821)
I do not see any where in that document where they talk about temperatures of the various controllers. However I'm also unaware of any controllers currently on the market that will overheat when utilized correctly.

That is a concern for the new mindsensors controller. The graphs they released were...let's say warranting further investigation. I have yet to see third party results on how well they work and whether we should be concerned about overheating, especially with the Rev B version being released so recently.

Greg Needel 27-12-2015 11:44

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Originally Posted by Bluejackets (Post 1514799)
We were thinking if the spark was similar programming as the talon, and talonSR

Programming the SPARK is identical to the talon and talon SR.

FTWDragonSlayer 02-02-2016 18:07

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plz help we bought 2 sparks and there unresponsive and wildly sending low voltage plz help its causing alot of problems it would be greatly appreciated

NinjaMunkeeNao 02-02-2016 18:48

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Originally Posted by FTWDragonSlayer (Post 1534102)
plz help we bought 2 sparks and there unresponsive and wildly sending low voltage plz help its causing alot of problems it would be greatly appreciated

Have you contacted anyone? I think calling whomever you bought the motors from and informing them of the difficulties you're currently having would be a good idea. If you've already done that, might I ask what you've done so far with the motors? Are you stressing them?

Greg Needel 02-02-2016 22:47

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Originally Posted by FTWDragonSlayer (Post 1534102)
plz help we bought 2 sparks and there unresponsive and wildly sending low voltage plz help its causing alot of problems it would be greatly appreciated

Hi Jarrett,
I sent this to you in an email also, but if you could tell us a bit more information we will be able to help figure out the problem.
  • What programming language are you using?
  • Are you using the included PWM cables, or other ones that your team had previously?
  • Have you tried calibrating the controllers or doing a reset?
  • Does the issue happen as soon as the power is turned on or only after the robot is enabled in the driver's station?

Please also check that power and motor connections. If motor and power connections were swapped, motors could spin uncontrollably regardless of the robot state.

If you send us a photo of your electronics setup, it might be easier to diagnosis the problem. Also if you would prefer, we can talk you through it over the phone.
You can reply to the email I sent you or send me a private message here on Chiefdelphi.


Thanks,

Greg

Billfred 02-02-2016 22:48

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Originally Posted by FTWDragonSlayer (Post 1534102)
plz help we bought 2 sparks and there unresponsive and wildly sending low voltage plz help its causing alot of problems it would be greatly appreciated

The fact that you have two Sparks exhibiting this behavior makes me suspicious that something else could be in the mix. Does it exhibit this same behavior with another speed controller? If a Victor/Talon/Jaguar/etc exhibits the same behavior wired the same way, then definitely email REV.

It's possible that a couple duds escaped any testing they're doing, but for a team to go 0 for 2 on semi-random pulls (we'll assume there's a degree of randomness with Amazon's fulfillment network that picked and packed your Sparks) would surprise me.

(Full disclosure: REV donated four Sparks and a Digit board to Team Cockamamie's Robot in 3 Days build this year, and Greg and I have known each other for some time. I'd say the same thing about any brand of speed controller, though.)

Tom Line 02-02-2016 23:48

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Originally Posted by Billfred (Post 1534249)
The fact that you have two Sparks exhibiting this behavior makes me suspicious that something else could be in the mix. Does it exhibit this same behavior with another speed controller? If a Victor/Talon/Jaguar/etc exhibits the same behavior wired the same way, then definitely email REV.

It's possible that a couple duds escaped any testing they're doing, but for a team to go 0 for 2 on semi-random pulls (we'll assume there's a degree of randomness with Amazon's fulfillment network that picked and packed your Sparks) would surprise me.

(Full disclosure: REV donated four Sparks and a Digit board to Team Cockamamie's Robot in 3 Days build this year, and Greg and I have known each other for some time. I'd say the same thing about any brand of speed controller, though.)

If I were going to venture a guess based on the limited information in the initial post, I'd say they have their PWM wire or their power wires plugged in backwards. My only complaint about the spark was that the white molded "B" to signify the black wire on the PWM connection didn't jump out at me when I was looking for it. I had the same complaint on the old victors too.


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