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Ian W. 13-07-2002 12:21

Space Elevator
 
http://www.space.com/businesstechnol..._020327-1.html

How cool would it be if they developed something like this in the near future? The resulting boom in space travel and tourism would be a huge kick to the economy, a huge renewal in interest in space would occur, and shortly after, there would probably be men (and women ;)) on Mars. Also, one must look at the current fleet of space shuttles. One has already been destroyed (Challenger) in a tragic accident more than a decade ago. Now, the other four are showing the signs of over 20 years of flying back and forth from space. Soon, we'll need one of two things to continue space exploration. A new fleet of shuttles, or a space elevator. A space elevator is so much more efficent, and once the initial costs are paid, much cheaper. The technology is here, we just need to build it.

Rob Ribaudo 13-07-2002 13:14

I read the artical and the idea of a space elevater seems very strange. I think this may be a waste to do for now. Much of space travle I have heard of seems like a bad idea right now. I think that all the money, time, and effort spent in things like this should stop untill all the problems on Earthare helped. I think that there is much more that could be done on Earth right now compared to what we could be doing travling in space. Anything being done with space right now that directly helps problems on Earth right now I do not have a problem with. It is just that I think that all that money, time, and effort could be put to better use for now. The idea of a space elevator is a great idea, but I will only support it actually being done if it will help problems on Earth right after it is built. I am sure this could help problems on Earth but could it help the problems we currently are having.
That's all I have to say about this right now. Feel free to try to change my mind, I am always open to new thoughts if I feel they go with my thinking.

Wayne C. 13-07-2002 16:45

The idea of a space elevator is prominently featured in the Red Mars science fiction book series (sorry author escapes me now). You might want to read it. The series deals with the colonization of Mars and has a lot of interesting ideas. Prophetic? maybe.

Ian W. 13-07-2002 18:47

Rob-

One thing a space elevator could do is allow us to reach the moon quickly and easily. on the moon there is a huge supply of He3 (i think that's what it is) which is used for fusion. that would provde a cheap, clean power source for many years to come. also, the problem of over crowding could be eliminated. if mars was to be colonized, a large portion of earth's population could be moved, and this would help greatly. i do agree with your concern, but this is something that may not have benifits the second it's built , but i think as time goes on it will become more and more important.

oreocookeee 13-07-2002 21:52

It kinda reminds me of the elevator from willy wonka and the chocolate factory. if you'r into futuristic stuff, check out www.turbohawk.com

MBiddy 13-07-2002 23:11

He3 isn't used for fusion (at least not to start it usually) H(2) and H(3) are used.

Matt Attallah 20-07-2002 20:22

Quote:

Originally posted by MBiddy
He3 isn't used for fusion (at least not to start it usually) H(2) and H(3) are used.
AAAAAAHHHHHHHH, chemistry!! :rolleyes: Chem is cool.

CH3
|
N
/ \
N----C C==O
|| || |
|| || |
CH C N--CH3
\ / \ /
N C
| ||
CH3 O

Guess what that is? (C8 H10 N4 O2)

KevK 20-07-2002 21:17

I saw an article about the elevator in the July 02 issue of popular mechanics. it said that mag lev cars would cruise at 1200 mph going to the space station. it would be interesting to see!

MBiddy 20-07-2002 23:47

Matt I don't know what that is, but I don't think it has to do with He(3) and fusion.

Matt Attallah 21-07-2002 00:01

You're right, but we fellow robotic people use A LOT of it during the build season...

DanLevin247 21-07-2002 14:56

Reasons like this are why I dropped Chemistry.Things that go fast are still cool though.

Adam Y. 21-07-2002 15:04

I'd hate to tell you but we can't use fusion yet:). Its still at a negative energy output. Unless I've haven't heard some big news or is that fission I'm thinking of?

Ian W. 21-07-2002 15:51

well, for fusion, you need certain small molecules (like He(3)), otherwise it's negative energy. so, with lots of small molecules, you have positive output. otherwise, we'd all be in the dark now, cause the sun would be dead.

Adam Y. 21-07-2002 22:07

Quote:

well, for fusion, you need certain small molecules (like He(3)), otherwise it's negative energy. so, with lots of small molecules, you have positive output. otherwise, we'd all be in the dark now, cause the sun would be dead.
first of all the sun is losing energy sooner or later it will go out:)(hopefully really really really later) plus the only articles ive been reading about fusion are really still about cold fusion(ability to start a fusion reaction at lower temperature) and the positive output. In reality fusion is the perfect way to make reactors its safe and effective

Clark Gilbert 21-07-2002 22:19

C8 H10 N4 O2
 
Isnt "C8 H10 N4 O2" caffiene? Everyones favorite addictive substance :D


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