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Anthony Galea 06-01-2016 10:08

RS550 and 775 to be legal for 2016, dimensions of KOP items
 
http://www.firstinspires.org/robotics/frc/blog/surprise

Apparently Banebots is cool again.

Arhowk 06-01-2016 10:11

Re: RS550 and 775 to be legal for 2016, dimensions of KOP items
 
That redaction is curious... Did anyone know what it said prior?

MrForbes 06-01-2016 10:12

Re: RS550 and 775 to be legal for 2016, dimensions of KOP items
 
They're just messing with us :)

Jared 06-01-2016 10:16

Re: RS550 and 775 to be legal for 2016, dimensions of KOP items
 
I wonder what this means for the 775pro? They told us now that the banebot motors are legal again, but we'll have to wait for kickoff to see if 775pro is legal.

kyle_hamblett 06-01-2016 10:18

Re: RS550 and 775 to be legal for 2016, dimensions of KOP items
 
Interesting... It's cool to see that we have 2 CIM alternatives with the RS775 and the 775Pro. However those KoP dimensions... 2*2*48 inches... I think litter had similar dimensions and was also listed in last year's KoP dimensions.

snekiam 06-01-2016 10:20

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Originally Posted by kyle_hamblett (Post 1517079)
Interesting... It's cool to see that we have 2 CIM alternatives with the RS775 and the 775Pro. However those KoP dimensions... 2*2*48 inches... I think litter had similar dimensions and was also listed in last year's KoP dimensions.

Could be a jousting stick sorta thing. That would be pretty neat.

MrForbes 06-01-2016 10:22

Re: RS550 and 775 to be legal for 2016, dimensions of KOP items
 
The long skinny one might be the same aluminum angle we got last year.

GeeTwo 06-01-2016 10:28

Re: RS550 and 775 to be legal for 2016, dimensions of KOP items
 
Redacted is just to not give away the dimensions of the game pieces.

The "One set of items, collectively, 2 in. x 2 in. x 48 in., 5 lbs" : could be a flag (with pole) or perhaps 4 @ 1" x 48" cylinders, or even more thinner cylinders.

Edit: by cylinder I meant the shape, but one or more pneumatic cylinders is not out of the question.

Jon Stratis 06-01-2016 10:33

Re: RS550 and 775 to be legal for 2016, dimensions of KOP items
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrForbes (Post 1517083)
The long skinny one might be the same aluminum angle we got last year.

I'm betting on this one.

billbo911 06-01-2016 10:38

Re: RS550 and 775 to be legal for 2016, dimensions of KOP items
 
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In a former blog post we declared Banebots 775 and 550 motors illegal for the 2016 season. This was because Banebots was no longer producing the motor and we wanted to ensure all teams had access to the same set of motors. After seeing feedback from the community, Banebots was able to work with us and start back up production of the 775 and 550! Banebots will have sufficient stock of both motors for the coming season and thus M7-RS775-18 and M5-RS550-12 will be legal for 2016!
Awesome!! This means the three M7-RS775-18's I bought when I heard they were going out of production will now be legal to use this year.

My Grandson will be bummed though. His Power Wheels will not be getting the upgrade I had planned. Maybe a 775Pro will be used later. :yikes:

Nathan Streeter 06-01-2016 11:51

Re: RS550 and 775 to be legal for 2016, dimensions of KOP items
 
... post moved here, since more of the discussion of the kit of parts is there.

Munchskull 06-01-2016 14:45

Re: RS550 and 775 to be legal for 2016, dimensions of KOP items
 
I wounder how common the rs-775 will be now that the 775Pro is around (assuming the 775Pro is legal).

Knufire 06-01-2016 15:25

Re: RS550 and 775 to be legal for 2016, dimensions of KOP items
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Munchskull (Post 1517210)
I wounder how common the rs-775 will be now that the 775Pro is around (assuming the 775Pro is legal).

Fairly common considering many teams have a pretty large stockpile of BB 775s. If we have a mechanism that really needs as much power as possible (flywheel shooter, for example) we might purchase some 775Pros but for other high-speed mechanisms (intakes, conveyors, eg) the BB 775 is more than adequate and already in our shop.

Chris is me 06-01-2016 15:29

Re: RS550 and 775 to be legal for 2016, dimensions of KOP items
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Knufire (Post 1517218)
Fairly common considering many teams have a pretty large stockpile of BB 775s. If we have a mechanism that really needs as much power as possible (flywheel shooter, for example) we might purchase some 775Pros but for other high-speed mechanisms (intakes, conveyors, eg) the BB 775 is more than adequate and already in our shop.

I'm still bitter from the huge reliability concerns the Banebots 775s had in 2011, where case shorts potentially ruined seasons for some teams. Combine that poor track record with the 775pro's power and efficiency improvements, particularly the ball bearing supported output shaft, and I'd be wary of using BB 775s again. I do know that teams used 775s from 2012-2015 without many notable incidents, so they probably fixed the problem, but 2011 left a sour taste in my mouth.

Ryan Dognaux 06-01-2016 15:41

Re: RS550 and 775 to be legal for 2016, dimensions of KOP items
 
We have a large number of RS775's so we're very happy that they are legal again for 2016. Pretty sure we'll have another robot with just CIM's, Mini-CIM's, RS775's and BAG's. Don't see much reason to use any other motors.


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