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MikLast

09-01-2016 16:34

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Originally Posted by Hugekase (Post 1519055)

I am still really confused on the whole spy thing, it seems like a not needed thing, and if you move it out of it's area, you could get fouled on it, whats the point of it?

Are you confused on the Spy Box, the Spy Bot, or both?

Bentorino

09-01-2016 16:34

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Originally Posted by EricLeifermann (Post 1518669)

Anybody else notice 1 boulder is $35.00 from andymark?!?!? Seems crazy expensive, or did I read the description wrong and you get more than 1?

Gopher balls are pretty expensive! If you want just the same balls, you can buy the rainbow set, but it won't be FIRST branded.

Set of 6 is going for around $200: http://www.gophersport.com/pe/premiu...gaAv3l8P8 HAQ

EricH

09-01-2016 16:34

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Originally Posted by Hugekase (Post 1519055)

I am still really confused on the whole spy thing, it seems like a not needed thing, and if you move it out of it's area, you could get fouled on it, whats the point of it?

There are two spies.

Spy BOX: Place where a human stands (Driver or Human Player). They act as an extra set of eyes.

Spy BOT: Robot that starts in the Courtyard. No difference from any other robot on the alliance other than starting location.

Redo91

09-01-2016 16:35

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Originally Posted by Hugekase (Post 1519046)

Ok, so on the line of that, so the spy bot can not be controlled once in the box, only in the round?

And, on the other hand, what is the advantage of having the spy bot? Is it required?

The issue seems to be that SPY is not defined in the GLOSSARY. If you check out the definition of SPY BOX, though, it is located outside the FIELD. Rule G9 then discusses the occupant of the SPY BOX.Check out rule G7, it talks about the "spy bot".

Redo91

09-01-2016 16:36

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Originally Posted by Bentorino (Post 1519062)

Gopher balls are pretty expensive! If you want just the same dimensinos and firmness you can buy the rainbow set, but it won't be FIRST branded.

Set of 6 is going for around $80: http://www.gophersport.com/pe/premiu...gaAv3l8P8 HAQ

Make sure you have the correct diameter selected, the 10 inch set is $205.

michchinn

09-01-2016 16:38

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Originally Posted by Bentorino (Post 1519062)

Check your diameter. The 10” balls on the website you attached are $205 for a set of 6. It is $80 only for the 6.3” diameter balls.

Hugekase

09-01-2016 16:40

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Alright, this makes a lot more sense about the spy, now then, what about the secret passage, where is the exact rules on it, and if the same team can bypass the defenses on there side.

ATannahill

09-01-2016 16:43

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Originally Posted by Hugekase (Post 1519077)

Alright, this makes a lot more sense about the spy, now then, what about the secret passage, where is the exact rules on it, and if the same team can bypass the defenses on there side.

What are you thoughts? Open the pdf of the manual and use the find function to search for secret passage.

H78	09-01-2016 16:43

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Does anyone know if the Q&A system is open, or when it opens if it isn't yet? How do you ask a question, when it's open?

GaryVoshol

09-01-2016 16:44

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Originally Posted by DWCEagles228 (Post 1518664)

Refree job is hell even more

Naah, just give me an decibel measuring app.

Although I suspect we will be busy scoring points for CROSSINGS.

GaryVoshol

09-01-2016 16:45

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Originally Posted by jajabinx124 (Post 1518671)

I think it's just blue HDPE... it better be HDPE..

He had to take his shoes off .... ;)

EricH

09-01-2016 16:47

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Originally Posted by H78 (Post 1519082)

Does anyone know if the Q&A system is open, or when it opens if it isn't yet? How do you ask a question, when it's open?

It is not open. It's not open to try to force everybody to actually read the Manual.

It should open up mid-week--tradition is that it opens on the first Wednesday of build season, AFTER Team Update #1 comes out on Tuesday.

And when it's open, they'll have a message out on how to use it.

GaryVoshol

09-01-2016 16:48

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Originally Posted by MikLast (Post 1518703)

For rule G22, would it be considered pinning if a robot was to inhibit forward motion while the opposing robot was in an defense?

For example, if the opposing robot was trying to move past one of the barriers and blocked forward motion into our side, would that be considered pinning?

Past interpretations have been that if a robot has a path out, it's not a pin. You have to contact the robot and prevent it from moving for it to be a pin.

EricH

09-01-2016 16:53

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Originally Posted by GaryVoshol (Post 1519093)

Past interpretations have been that if a robot has a path out, it's not a pin. You have to contact the robot and prevent it from moving for it to be a pin.

However, there is another rule that could be in play. If they're heading to or from your Courtyard, and you interfere, there's a foul for that.

picklecrackers

09-01-2016 17:30

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Has anyone found anything regarding how the boulders must be rolled into the secret passages? Do they have to be entered using a bowling-type fashion?

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