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ramune 10-01-2016 13:16

Re: FIRST STRONGHOLD Discussion
 
This is my first year in FRC but I was really impressed by the video and animation, (though I've seen some other release videos and games since my older brother has been in robotics) looks fun but also pretty challenging haha
Looks like a real hassle to set up too.

Also my first time on chiefdelphi but I've been on a few other forums so I'll just have to get used to the layout! :deadhorse:

AmoryG 10-01-2016 13:28

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The rules for selecting defenses is confusing me.

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The specific DEFENSES used during each MATCH are selected by a combination of the audience and

the ALLIANCES. One (1) DEFENSE from each of the four (4) DEFENSE groups, A, B, C, and D are on the

FIELD each Qualification and Playoff MATCH.
The way I understand it is that each alliance gets to pick 3 defenses one from each category that the audience is not picking. My question is that are there two full sets of defenses each alliance can choose from? Could both alliances pick the Portcullis from category A or will the blue alliance have to pick the Cheval de Frise from category A if the red alliance picked the Portcullis?

jaimem263 10-01-2016 15:53

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Is it legal to have an aditional robot(drone) to the FRC robot?

rich2202 10-01-2016 15:59

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Originally Posted by AmoryG (Post 1520171)
Could both alliances pick the Portcullis from category A or will the blue alliance have to pick the Cheval de Frise from category A if the red alliance picked the Portcullis?

Each Alliance will have a full set to pick from. The one caveat is that the Audience picks one, so that set will not be available to either Alliance.

GaryVoshol 10-01-2016 17:00

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Originally Posted by jaimem263 (Post 1520326)
Is it legal to have an aditional robot(drone) to the FRC robot?

Are you being serious?

I suppose it could be legal, but it sure couldn't go very far. Unless you don't mind collecting a foul and then being disabled because of G18.

cait.schroeder 10-01-2016 17:03

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Originally Posted by MooreteP (Post 1518629)
Field Reset Hell.

Definetly

jaimem263 10-01-2016 17:04

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Originally Posted by GaryVoshol (Post 1520407)
Are you being serious?

I suppose it could be legal, but it sure couldn't go very far. Unless you don't mind collecting a foul and then being disabled because of G18.

the drone would be used to hook up the chain onto the bar so its able to lift the robot up byt itself in the last 20 secs of the match

Jaxom 10-01-2016 17:06

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Originally Posted by GaryVoshol (Post 1520407)
Are you being serious?

I suppose it could be legal, but it sure couldn't go very far. Unless you don't mind collecting a foul and then being disabled because of G18.

And then have the fun of watching your drone (A) falling un-powered to the floor, and (B) lying there defenseless while 5, 150 pound, robots drive around the field.

Boltman 10-01-2016 17:08

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Originally Posted by jaimem263 (Post 1520411)
the drone would be used to hook up the chain onto the bar so its able to lift the robot up byt itself in the last 20 secs of the match

I don't see any violation as long as it goes straight up and remains attached to robot below via the chain at all times. Like to see it that would be some fancy flying.

Jaxom 10-01-2016 17:12

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Originally Posted by jaimem263 (Post 1520411)
the drone would be used to hook up the chain onto the bar so its able to lift the robot up byt itself in the last 20 secs of the match

Since it's part of the robot, control signals for the drone have to go through the roboRIO. (R56) I think you'd also have to modify the wireless communication to the drone to go through the allowed ports in R60. And R57 only allows one wireless bridge, hard-connected to the roboRIO (R58). So even if you could get the roboRIO-drone control set up I don't know how you could legally do the wireless communication to the drone. Or were you thinking of a tethered drone?

ratdude747 10-01-2016 17:44

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Originally Posted by Jaxom (Post 1520425)
Since it's part of the robot, control signals for the drone have to go through the roboRIO. (R56) I think you'd also have to modify the wireless communication to the drone to go through the allowed ports in R60. And R57 only allows one wireless bridge, hard-connected to the roboRIO (R58). So even if you could get the roboRIO-drone control set up I don't know how you could legally do the wireless communication to the drone. Or were you thinking of a tethered drone?

If it's connected by a chain I don't see why a tether would be so far fetched. The bigger challenge would be making it work with legal motors... I'm sure its doable. Practical, maybe.

team-4480 10-01-2016 17:45

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Originally Posted by jaimem263 (Post 1520411)
the drone would be used to hook up the chain onto the bar so its able to lift the robot up byt itself in the last 20 secs of the match

That would be difficult/near impossible to stabilize the drone to be able to not hit the tower considering it wouldn't have GPS or anything to keep it steady.

MikLast 10-01-2016 17:46

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Originally Posted by ratdude747 (Post 1520440)
If it's connected by a chain I don't see why a tether would be so far fetched. The bigger challenge would be making it work with legal motors... I'm sure its doable. Practical, maybe.

Looks BA if completed, Very much so.

Vamorys 10-01-2016 18:09

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With this game, There are so many options for robots. If you don't get what I'm saying, Let me paint you a picture. Last year there was only 2 types of robots that we saw at competitions. One that collected totes and stacked it inside of itself and one that stacked it using 2 arms and such. I'm glad there are so many different possibilities for the robots this year. It'll make competitions a bit more interesting.

rich2202 10-01-2016 18:11

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Regarding a drone: I would read the manual carefully about allowable motors. Also, power might be an issue if gets power from a battery.


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