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Mike Marandola 09-01-2016 11:51

Re: FIRST STRONGHOLD Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by billbo911 (Post 1518635)
Best game I have seen since starting in 2005!

Definitely in my top 9 favorite games since Overdrive.

An Outlier 09-01-2016 11:51

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Not a water game???!?!?

swaxman12345 09-01-2016 11:56

Well guys, time to start drilling for weight.

carpedav000 09-01-2016 11:56

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Originally Posted by Cyberphil (Post 1518616)
Audience selecting the final defense is going to be interesting...

I honestly think this will come into play during alliance selection early-midway through the season (loud teams as 2nd/3rd picks).

Drakxii 09-01-2016 11:56

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Originally Posted by An Outlier (Post 1518637)
Not a water game???!?!?

It does have a moat field element...

Cyberphil 09-01-2016 11:57

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Originally Posted by XaulZan11 (Post 1518634)
It reminds me of 2012 and I predict it will play out similarly. Smart teams should have a significant advantage early as they will be focusing on barriers and scoring low while non-experienced teams will likely be attempting to score high.

Though it is somewhat similar to 2012, one team on an alliance can get 4 ranking points while another team has the possibility to get 0 (not winning, not damaging the defense, not capturing the tower).

This is very different from 2012 where if cooperation happened both alliances received ranking points.

Ubiquity 09-01-2016 12:00

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Really challenging, especially for rookie team to build one or two practice field elements. Difficult to build a an uberbot that can both get across multiple barriers against defense, and then be able to attack tower. a simple boxbot can defend against an uberbot. Even a well established team would have trouble constructing multiple field elements to test against. I'll predict there will be a lot of pre-competition co-op to build practice field and discuss strategies.

Can Anyone put up an alternated site for the manual and field drawings? I can't get them from FIRST - timeouts. The webcast was perfect. I was ROTFL. Now go bring me a shrubbery!

LGummy 09-01-2016 12:00

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My god the foam balls are expensive

XaulZan11 09-01-2016 12:00

Re: FIRST STRONGHOLD Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Cyberphil (Post 1518643)
Though it is somewhat similar to 2012, one team on an alliance can get 4 ranking points while another team has the possibility to get 0 (not winning, not damaging the defense, not capturing the tower).

This is very different from 2012 where if cooperation happened both alliances received ranking points.

Agreed. I was more referring to that fact that ranking points can be earned by ways other than winning matches, like 2012. (It is possible for a team to win a match and be passed in the rankings by a team they just beat).

jaimem263 09-01-2016 12:04

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How many boulders can we carry after the autonomous code?

blazingbronco18 09-01-2016 12:09

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Originally Posted by jaimem263 (Post 1518654)
How many boulders can we carry after the autonomous code?

Robot may be in possession of only one boulder at any given time.

jajabinx124 09-01-2016 12:17

Re: FIRST STRONGHOLD Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by jaimem263 (Post 1518654)
How many boulders can we carry after the autonomous code?

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Originally Posted by blazingbronco18 (Post 1518657)
Robot may be in possession of only one boulder at any given time.

Rule below. Just if anyone was confused about what possessing or controling was.

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G38 ROBOTS may not control more than one (1) BOULDER at any time.

Violation: FOUL per extra BOULDER

Moving or positioning a BOULDER to gain advantage is considered

“control.”

Examples include, but are not limited to:

A. “carrying” (holding BOULDERS inside a ROBOT)

B. “herding” (intentionally pushing or impelling BOULDERS to a desired

location or direction)

C.“trapping” (holding one or more BOULDERS against a FIELD element

in an attempt to shield or guard them)

D. “launching” (shooting BOULDERS into the air or throwing in a forceful

way)

Examples of interaction with BOULDERS that are not “control” include,

but are not limited to:

A. “bulldozing” (inadvertent contact with BOULDERS while in the path of

the ROBOT moving about the FIELD)

B. “deflecting” (being hit by a BOULDER that bounces into or off of a

ROBOT).

If a BOULDER becomes lodged in or on a ROBOT, it will be considered

controlled by the ROBOT. It is important to design your ROBOT so that

it is impossible to inadvertently or unintentionally control more than the

allowed maximum.

Ccody_ 09-01-2016 12:19

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It's lit!

DWCEagles228 09-01-2016 12:20

Re: FIRST STRONGHOLD Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by MooreteP (Post 1518629)
Field Reset Hell.

Refree job is hell even more

asid61 09-01-2016 12:26

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This looks incredibly difficult. Takes the award for "Most Complex FRC game" from Recycle Rush (or perhaps Diabolical Dynamics).


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