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sdaws233 09-01-2016 15:23
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Does anyone know if the outerworks are available for purchase online and if so what the website would be?

cait.schroeder 09-01-2016 15:25
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Yeah, there are going to be a lot of things going on for the refs to watch.

tindleroot 09-01-2016 15:28
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For those who are worried about the price of the boulders, keep in mind that you don't need many, 1 - 4 would be fine. The only issue would be wear and tear over time, but if you plan to play ONLY with new balls then you shouldn't plan to play in eliminations.

ATannahill 09-01-2016 15:32
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Originally Posted by MikLast (Post 1518920)
The post will be edited to make sure people can find it.

Page 100, 5.5.10.1 says that the audience selects Outer Works pos 3, and in figure 2-4, it shows pos 3 as in the center (of the 5 outer works spots) and in fugure 2-1 the audience selected is in pos 2 and 4, which is incorrect.
How are you seeing that the audience selected ones are in 2 and 4?

ATannahill 09-01-2016 15:33
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Originally Posted by Harharhoman (Post 1518922)
For what I have found, the picture is wrong since the field tour video also said that it was the middle/center defense was chosen by the audience.

My question is how do they choose, is it a poll or measured in decibels?
The head ref is the judge on that, it is by loudest response.

MikLast 09-01-2016 15:34
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Originally Posted by rtfgnow (Post 1518945)
How are you seeing that the audience selected ones are in 2 and 4?
Group A pieces are the audience selected ones. those are the ones pos 2/4.

ATannahill 09-01-2016 15:34
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Originally Posted by Team5730-Pros (Post 1518923)
can you damage your own defense if you go from the neutral zone into your own courtyard?
No, the definition of crossed (pg. 31) requires you to end up in the opponent's courtyard. I do not know how one can do that by attempting to cross into your courtyard.

Redo91 09-01-2016 15:39
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Originally Posted by MikLast (Post 1518948)
Group A pieces are the audience selected ones. those are the ones pos 2/4.
You need to reread the rules governing how the DEFENSES are selected, in section 5.5.10.

JoshWilson 09-01-2016 15:42
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Originally Posted by robot7600 (Post 1518868)
someone look at the game manual. apparently the moat is 2ft. deep.
the moat isn't 2ft deep, as in how far down it goes. I got to go on the field and see all the stuff at the kickoff event, and it only went a little above my ankle. Either it's referring to a different t dimension, or it's a typo

Redo91 09-01-2016 15:42
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Originally Posted by rtfgnow (Post 1518880)
I have read this section, along with section 2.2.2.1. I am fairly confident in my first statement, but not the second. I looked through the figures in the manual and none have the defenses repeated.
Check out the second paragraph in 5.5.10.

ATannahill 09-01-2016 15:44
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Originally Posted by Redo91 (Post 1518968)
Check out the second paragraph in 5.5.10.
As I understand, that paragraph only governs the practice matches and allows teams to pick what they practice against.

EricH 09-01-2016 15:45
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Originally Posted by sdaws233 (Post 1518928)
Does anyone know if the outerworks are available for purchase online and if so what the website would be?
They aren't. Your field build team will build them.

MikLast 09-01-2016 15:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redo91 (Post 1518961)
You need to reread the rules governing how the DEFENSES are selected, in section 5.5.10.
if you read my other comments, you would see i was referencing the fact that figure 2-1 is incorrect, as it shows them in the wrong position, unless you are pointing something else out, which next time would be great to know instead of being broad.

ATannahill 09-01-2016 15:51
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Originally Posted by MikLast (Post 1518984)
if you read my other comments, you would see i was referencing the fact that figure 2-1 is incorrect, as it shows them in the wrong position, unless you are pointing something else out, which next time would be great to know instead of being broad.
Category A is not the one that is always chosen by the audience. The category will change throughout the event.

alicen 09-01-2016 15:53
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Originally Posted by MikLast (Post 1518984)
if you read my other comments, you would see i was referencing the fact that figure 2-1 is incorrect, as it shows them in the wrong position, unless you are pointing something else out, which next time would be great to know instead of being broad.
The audience chosen defenses are not always the tall tower/door looking defense. The audience chooses one of the two defense choices from a predetermined category that is generated with the match schedule.

In figure 2-1, it appears that the audience chosen defenses were from Category B

Hope that helps! :)


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