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AMendenhall 09-01-2016 13:30
FIRST 2016 Game Manual Mistakes
 
Page 15 of the 2016 Game Manual:
"The Rough Terrain is constructed from thirty (31) pieces..."
Pretty sure there are 31 pieces on the rough terrain.

ATannahill 09-01-2016 13:31
Re: FIRST 2016 Game Manual Mistakes
 
Table 5-2, fourth column, ninth row, the 2 is not formatted as a superscript.

CPR fan 09-01-2016 13:36
Re: FIRST 2016 Game Manual Mistakes
 
The word practice is misspelled as "pratice" on page 101 in the second paragraph of the blue box.

2791GreenFlare 09-01-2016 14:28
Re: FIRST 2016 Game Manual Mistakes
 
One error in the obstacle of the moat was that the depth of the moat is 2 inches not 2 feet. 2 feet is statistically impossible so it only makes sense to be 2 inches.

bvisness 09-01-2016 14:30
Re: FIRST 2016 Game Manual Mistakes
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2791GreenFlare (Post 1518830)
One error in the obstacle of the moat was that the depth of the moat is 2 inches not 2 feet. 2 feet is statistically impossible so it only makes sense to be 2 inches.
I already answered this at your other thread, but this is NOT an error because the "depth" in the manual is referring to the distance across the moat.

Anteprefix 09-01-2016 14:40
Re: FIRST 2016 Game Manual Mistakes
 
Section 5.3.3 Ranking Score says
Quote:
Ranking Points are units credited to a Team based on their ALLIANCES’ performance in Qualification
MATCHES. Ranking Points are awarded to each eligible Team at the completion of each Qualification
MATCH:
A. Each Team on the winning ALLIANCE receives two (2) Ranking Points.
B. Each Team on the losing ALLIANCE receives zero (0) Ranking Points.
C. In the event of a tied score, all Teams receive one (1) Ranking Point.
D. Each Team on an ALLIANCE that CAPTURES a TOWER receives one (1) Ranking Point.
E. Each Team on an ALLIANCE that BREACHES the OUTER WORKS receives one (1) Ranking
Point.
Exceptions to A-D are as follows:
F. A SURROGATE receives zero (0) Ranking Points.
G. A DISQUALIFIED Team, as determined by the Head REFEREE, receives zero (0) Ranking
Points in a Qualification MATCH or causes their ALLIANCE to receive zero (0) MATCH points
in a Playoff MATCH.
H. A “no-show” Team is DISQUALIFIED from that MATCH. A Team is declared a no-show if no
member of the DRIVE TEAM is in the CASTLE or the SPY BOX at the start of the MATCH.
Is it supposed to say exceptions to A-E? Otherwise it seems to imply that ranking points from breaching defenses apply even if you are otherwise ineligible for ranking points.

jrsmith 09-01-2016 15:18
Re: FIRST 2016 Game Manual Mistakes
 
On page nine, is the tower flag confusing to others?

dibblec 09-01-2016 15:20
Re: FIRST 2016 Game Manual Mistakes
 
When looking at the fields in the manuals, the flags are opposite of what they are in the field tour videos here .

In the manual figure 2-1 is correct, the red flag is on the red alliance with the red secret passage, however, figures 2-2, 2-3, 2-4 and others the red and blue flags are on the opposite side of their alliance. It had some of our students confused at first until using figure 2-1 and compared that to the field tour videos.

If you look at them as being captured, then they are correct.

ATannahill 09-01-2016 15:20
Re: FIRST 2016 Game Manual Mistakes
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jrsmith (Post 1518915)
On page nine, is the tower flag confusing to others?
Yes, I believe the flags are in the after capture configuration. Figure 1-1 and Figure 2-1 have the flag colors reversed.

Paul Mace 09-01-2016 18:52
Re: FIRST 2016 Game Manual Mistakes
 
dibblec: Yours is the definitive answer. Figs 1-1 and 2-1 are correct--the other illustrations are, well...misleading at best. The videos of the actual game field setup clearly show red alliance, red lights, red castle and red secret passage on one end and blue on the other. This also stands to reason from a game play and traditional design pattern--your human player is alongside your drive team.

See Figure 2-22, which clarifies everything.

Orthofort 09-01-2016 19:57
Re: FIRST 2016 Game Manual Mistakes
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dibblec (Post 1518919)
When looking at the fields in the manuals, the flags are opposite of what they are in the field tour videos here .

In the manual figure 2-1 is correct, the red flag is on the red alliance with the red secret passage, however, figures 2-2, 2-3, 2-4 and others the red and blue flags are on the opposite side of their alliance. It had some of our students confused at first until using figure 2-1 and compared that to the field tour videos.

If you look at them as being captured, then they are correct.
Just to add on to this, it looks like it is Figures 2-2, 2-3, 2-4, 2-22, and 2-36 which have the flags reversed. I'm guessing they just just screwed up on one and copied the same image for the others, since all the figures are just variations on the same picture, since all of the other figures which contain different images are correct.

Cal578 09-01-2016 20:25
Re: FIRST 2016 Game Manual Mistakes
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikLast (Post 1518931)
... in fugure 2-1 the audience selected is in pos 2 and 4, ...
How does figure 2-1 show the position of the audience-selected defense? It shows all the defenses, and doesn't mention "audience" at all.

alopex_rex 09-01-2016 20:42
Re: FIRST 2016 Game Manual Mistakes
 
Figures 1-1 and 2-1 couldn't represent an actual game state, because in a real game the defense in the middle slot is same for both alliances. I don't think this is a mistake though--I think they just wanted to show all the different defenses in the same diagram, a configuration which isn't possible in a real match.

Quote:
Page 100, 5.5.10.1 says that the audience selects Outer Works pos 3, and in figure 2-4, it shows pos 3 as in the center (of the 5 outer works spots) and in fugure 2-1 the audience selected is in pos 2 and 4, which is incorrect.
I'm not sure what you what you mean by saying the audience-selected defenses are in slots 2 and 4. The only distinguishing feature of the audience-selected defenses is that they're in the middle--how can you look at a static diagram and conclude that they're in the wrong place?

Brad Hanel 09-01-2016 20:50
Re: FIRST 2016 Game Manual Mistakes
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bvisness (Post 1518832)
I already answered this at your other thread, but this is NOT an error because the "depth" in the manual is referring to the distance across the moat.
I feel as though calling "depth" anything but the "deepness" when referring to a body of water is a little confusing.

MikLast 09-01-2016 21:06
Re: FIRST 2016 Game Manual Mistakes
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cal578 (Post 1519417)
How does figure 2-1 show the position of the audience-selected defense? It shows all the defenses, and doesn't mention "audience" at all.
Oh, i forgot to change this. I was corrected in another thread, i interpreted the second paragraph on 5.5.10.1 wrong.


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