Originally Posted by DareDad (Post 1518885)

I don't see anything in the actual game rules about when an alliance must select their defenses. The kickoff video says they must be selected "while in line" which makes sense. It certainly has to be done by the end of the previous match if the game is going to proceed at a decent pace.

Does anyone see a rule on this that I'm missing?

Originally Posted by 5.5.10.2

5.5.10.2 TEAM SELECTION OF DEFENSES
Selection of DEFENSES by each ALLIANCE shall follow the processes outlined below:
During Qualification MATCHES:
■■Step 1 – Once in the Queue and no later than the end of the MATCH two (2) MATCHES prior to
their scheduled MATCH (i.e. “Queue #2”): Each ALLIANCE selects the DEFENSES and DEFENSE
locations on the FIELD and communicates the selections to the Defense Coordinator (DC). The
DC’s location is fixed throughout the event, but varies event-to-event depending on available
space in each venue.
■■Step 2 – Queued and no later than the start of the MATCH one (1) MATCH prior to their
scheduled MATCH (i.e. “Queue #1”): ASAP & concurrently, the DC makes available to each
ALLIANCE a map revealing the DEFENSES and locations.
■■Step 3 – ALLIANCES move from the queue to the FIELD

Originally Posted by cjl2625 (Post 1518888)

Refer to 5.5.10

In quals, you have to let the Defense Coordinator know before the end of the match 2 matches before yours (in queue #2)

In elims, you must let him know before the end of the match right before yours (in queue #1)

Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1518971)

Oh goody....something else for the queuers to do......

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol (Post 1518987)

I think you get a pass on this one Ed. There's a new volunteer position, the Defensive Coordinator (DC). Seems to be like a sub-Field Supervisor. A representative from the alliance goes to the DC and gives them their selections.

I'm wondering, how many times is the Audience Selection done? There's an example of the match schedule with 3 matches, all marked (A). It seems to indicate that the audience is selecting a defense from group A for those matches. Does the selection change each match, or is it static for all the matches marked as (A)?

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol (Post 1518987)

I think you get a pass on this one Ed. There's a new volunteer position, the Defensive Coordinator (DC). Seems to be like a sub-Field Supervisor. A representative from the alliance goes to the DC and gives them their selections.

I'm wondering, how many times is the Audience Selection done? There's an example of the match schedule with 3 matches, all marked (A). It seems to indicate that the audience is selecting a defense from group A for those matches. Does the selection change each match, or is it static for all the matches marked as (A)?

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol (Post 1518987)

I'm wondering, how many times is the Audience Selection done? There's an example of the match schedule with 3 matches, all marked (A). It seems to indicate that the audience is selecting a defense from group A for those matches. Does the selection change each match, or is it static for all the matches marked as (A)?

Originally Posted by rtfgnow (Post 1519031)

Doug, I believe the audience selection is changed by round. The round is a group of matches during which each team plays once. In which case the first three matches should be the same.

Originally Posted by rtfgnow (Post 1519031)

Doug, I believe the audience selection is changed by round. The round is a group of matches during which each team plays once. In which case the first three matches should be the same.

Originally Posted by DareDad (Post 1519051)

Ahh, here is the definition of a round:

5.3.1 Schedule The Qualification MATCH schedule is made available as soon as possible, but no later than one (1) hour before Qualification MATCHES are scheduled to begin. Each Qualification schedule consists of a series of rounds in which each team plays one (1) MATCH per round.



The rounds must be of variable length with the maximum number of matches per team being floor(teamCount/6).

The minimum number of matches per round would be 2 or 3 less than that based on how the matchmaker works.

So with 60 teams (as in Duluth) the maximum round size would be 10 and the minimum would be 7 or 8.

Peoria (where last I saw there were 33 teams) the maximum round would be 5 matches with the minimum being 2 or 3.

Originally Posted by rtfgnow (Post 1519061)

I believe with 60 teams at an event, the round length would be constant at 10. If you had 58 teams the rounds would vary between 9 and 10 matches. I am not sure how you would define the end of a round if a match spans two different rounds.

Originally Posted by DareDad (Post 1519098)

With 60 teams, the gap between matches for any team will generally be in the 6 to 12 match range.

If the round was set at 10 for 60 teams you would guarantee that some teams would be playing twice in each round.

Originally Posted by rtfgnow (Post 1519108)

I could play in the 8th match of round six and the 3rd match of round seven and the 8th match of round 8. That would mean I would have two vastly different break lengths while keeping the round length the same.