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414cnewq

14-01-2016 16:51

Is This Legal?

Our team is interested in using this auto extending tape measure as part of its scaling mechanism.
As I asked in the title of the post, is it legal to use this in FRC.

ChuckDickerson

14-01-2016 16:53

Re: Is This Legal?

Does it have an internal motor and batteries? If so then no. If not then it is legal. R29 & R31.

Cash4587

14-01-2016 16:53

Re: Is This Legal?

Does it follow all the game rules? Does it follow all of the robot rules? If yes then most likely yes. Try to look for yourself in the game manual before asking here.

ChuckDickerson

14-01-2016 16:58

Re: Is This Legal?

Quote:

Originally Posted by nxtmonkeys (Post 1523730)

As long as it's powered by the main robot battery in some way, yes. and that it follows the frame perimeter rules.

Blanket statements like this can lead to illegal robots. There are more rules than just the battery rules and the frame perimeter rules.

ChuckDickerson

14-01-2016 17:04

Re: Is This Legal?

I give up. Please read R29 & R31 carefully and if you still feel this is legal then please be prepared to explain why to your robot inspector.

AustinShalit

14-01-2016 17:08

Re: Is This Legal?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adlermontana (Post 1523737)

Yes, it is legal. my team is also considering using an electric tape measure to climb the wall.
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Why do you think it is legal? I believe it violates R29 & R31:

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The only motors and actuators permitted on 2016 FIRST Robotics Competition ROBOTS include the following:

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The only legal source of electrical energy for the ROBOT during the competition, the ROBOT battery, must be a non-spillable sealed lead acid (SLA) battery with the following specifications:

bEdhEd

15-01-2016 00:30

Re: Is This Legal?

I looked at that picture and immediately thought: Illegal.

The rules have already been cited above.

It has its own illegal motor and power. You'd have to modify it with FRC legal parts and power that you might as well get a regular one and motorize it yourself.

cglrcng

15-01-2016 00:50

Re: Is This Legal?

Though you may be able to use it in the Manual Tape Measure Mode (if power source/ motor were removed) -(And how do you prove that to the robot inspector?)

It no doubt contains 2 things that do not abide by the 2016 Game Manual rules (an internal power source that is not the allowed (1) one 12 volt robot battery, and a (some kind of), motor that is not on the approved 2016 FRC Motor list. I know it isn't a Cim, a mini-Cim, or a Bag motor (there are many more motors allowed, both types/models/# of), and you would have to disassemble it to find out what type/model # of motor it is. I'm almost dead certain it won't be on the approved list, but cannot swear to it on my life.

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