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Beat me to it! Amazingly, they were all stuck on the same defense, drawbridge. Is that some kind of super triple tortuga?!

Two of the teams were making a pyramid. They couldn't do that again if they tried!

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It came out of nowhere!

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"Oh no... oh no... TORTUGA OUT OF NO WHERE!"

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So if this is official, Who would have guessed a triple T would happen on the SAME defense?!:D

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First video
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/83783588
EDIT: Triple Tortuga sequence starts at timestamp 4:03:47

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Beware the Tortuga, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jawbridge, and shun
The frumious Portacul!

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You can see 6222 rocking a bit, showing they are actually stuck on the drawbridge.

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It looks to me like the alliance robots pinned each other in the close vicinity of a defense, but this is Dr. Joe's game.

Edit: what was 6222 stuck on? They were close to the drawbridge, but didn't seem like they should have been stuck to it.

Edit2: Also, to teams planning a multi-boulder autonomous, you should note that the boulder's aren't really squared up on the center line. It appears that those keeper rings drift during the tournament.

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When I first saw them rocking, I thought 'No way they are going to stay stuck for 101 sec, no Triple Tortuga. They are probably just driving the wrong way, they will figure it out' :ahh: Also, at the 4:05:05 the game announcer points out that 5898 and 6222 are rookies and added "Good job, you guys. Y'all are doing great!" :o 60 secs into the Dubious Honor of First Triple Tortuga is probably not the best time to hear that. The announcer had other gems like "still in Tent Formation".

Another funny thing about this right before this match, the Audience selected "Drawbridge" as the defense for matches 61-70. Good choice, how about that for audience participation. I feel like after this match Drawbridge would win in a landslide. The only people for Sally Port would be the red alliance. :D I wonder if they will stay away from the audience Drawbridge in their next match.

I hope the red alliance owns this and laughs it off, rather then letting it eat at them. This really was quite the perfect storm. First, it is good strategy if your goal is 5 damaged defenses, go for the double door cross early when all bots are in the right spot and communicating. The train was setup well enough but unfortunately 4748 climbed 6222 and ended up sideways between the shields. 4823 decides to help them out by successfully pushing them through the Drawbridge. Unfortunately, they end up in the aforementioned Tent Formation. 6222 correctly decides to go through the Low Bar to dislodge a tent pole (something they were capable of doing and would have been a highlight play). Unfortunately, they caught the edge of the Drawbridge on their way to the Low Bar and stayed there. Seemed like good decision-making hampered by execution errors that snowballed. It may have all started when 4748 let the bridge pop up to fend off possible defense from 1398 (but was probably just trying to hold the other Drawbridge open). It is legal to defend this double cross maneuver since most of it takes place outside the Outer Works (a rare case where a single defender can easily stop all 3 opponents from scoring without incurring fouls). Crazy game, this Stronghold.

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Rather than being surprised about the circumstances surrounding this TT, I'm more surprised that it hadn't happened earlier in the day, seeing as that it's a Week 0.5 event.

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The Lucas is our first winner of the Triple Tortuga Contest!

PM me your contact info and we'll work on getting you your Starbucks gift card.

Teams #4748, #4823 & #6222 I am sorry to say but you're the first members of #TripleTortuga Club. You won't be the last. I am sure of that much.

There are 4 more $10 gift cards left to award and the Big Kahuna, $50 gift card for the Double Triple Tortuga.

Remember, my house, my rules. It is the first CD user that posts a reply to this thread with a LINK to a video that shows the Triple T happening. Again, a picture is nice but we need context to judge these things. A link to publicly available video is the way we are going to do that.

May all your turtugas be Triple Tortugas!

Cheers,
Dr. Joe J.

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UPDATE on our first winner:

A gift card has been sent to The Lucas. Dr. Joe pays his debts promptly and I'll not have it said otherwise ;-)

The Lucas asked for an Amazon card rather than a Starbucks card which I allowed so I am offering this option to all other contestants as well.

Finally, some have expressed concern that someone may try to win by editing a response after the fact (for example posting a picture or a comment first then adding a link when the USTREAM gets posted).

Come on people. You know better than that. That ain't gonna cut no ice with the good doctor. That said, let's make a rule to avoid the situation.

So... to be eligible you have to have the following elements:
You must be first to reply to this message thread with an UNEDITED POST that contains a link to a publicly available video that shows enough of the lead up to a Triple Tortuga to judge that it IS in fact a Triple Tortuga. Also note there is nothing preventing you from uploading your own video and linking to that. You don't have to wait until the official stream becomes available. The competition never sleeps. You can't rest if you want to win the prize...

May all your tortugas be Triple Tortugas.

Dr. Joe J.

P.S. Did all ya'll see that Dukes of Stronghold move that one of the robots on the blue team did just prior to the Triple Tortuga? If that kind of behavior keeps up, there are going to be a lot more tortugas for us all to view and enjoy.

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According to this post on /r/FRC, 6222's battery became dislodged, and was stuck underneath their robot. Looking at FRANKlybored's picture, this certainly looks possible.
The poster, who claimed to be the referee standing over the robots as it happened, did not say anything about knowing how the battery became dislodged, so I'm not sure how this will affect the ruling of a Triple Tortuga.

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Re-watching the match, 6222 did indeed get e-stopped if you look at their driver station's status light, although it wasn't obvious until the end of the match. A bit before a look at the stack light shows a Red indicator, which would indicate some issue on the red side. The Field monitor wasn't in focus so I couldn't see anything there.

Even so, if the loose battery was caused by the drawbridge (which is plausible), given Dr. Joe's prior ruling, is a tortuga. He specifically mentioned that tossing a battery due to a defense and getting E-stopped (either by the team or by the scorekeeper via FMS) as a result does count. All that matters is that a defense was responsible to a degree.

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Exactly correct. I hear the appeal and I sustain the Triple Tortuga Ruling.

Dr. Joe J.