Originally Posted by Ubiquity (Post 1534994)

Just wondering if anyone has built the team version draw bridge, what springs did you use? The ones we have (Home Depot screen door 16") aren't strong enough to shut the bridge after it goes down.

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1526409)

Here's my thoughts on it (with my ref hat--NOT my judge hat, this isn't their job--on):

As seen in the video, if I saw it happen, the robot would meet the definition of Crossing, assuming it were in the Neutral Zone completely when it broke contact.

However, there are 5 other robots on the field that could get in the way of seeing it or command attention for something else--say, applying a hit on somebody ELSE while they're trying to cross a Defense. So that's a bit of an "If".

Your best chance to get credit is to alert the refs during practice matches that "hey, we like to use this method to Cross the Group C Defenses, can you check it?" Trust me, as a ref, we LOVE it when teams ask us whether they're doing something per the rules during practice, because if they aren't, they can correct it, and if they're borderline (like some of the faster HPs last year) we get a chance to see what we need to be watching for and help the team adjust to get the result they want.

Originally Posted by wlaroche (Post 1535022)

Please remember the only answer that matters is what comes from the GDC. Threads on CD cannot be used to debate any ruling on the field.

Originally Posted by JesseK (Post 1535025)

Generally true. Yet I've seen Eric post elsewhere that he does ref, and I've also seen the Q&A rule that demonstration to a ref before a match is definitely helpful in convincing the refs of something that may not be obvious. I think a specific Q&A for this year surrounding this issue would allow this scenario to play out.