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AllenGregoryIV

20-01-2016 13:58

Q&A:612 Rock Wall Dimension Change

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Q. Team drawings show defense ramps 10 inches but real field is almost 12. Also at NH kickoff I measured the width of stone wall 5.5 but team and real field drawings show 4.5. My photos also show the width wider than tall. Are corrections for dimensions needed?
2016-01-19 by FRC0175
A. Regarding the discrepancy you describe in the first part of your question, we think the answer to Q573 answers your question. The second part, however, does show a discrepancy, the correct dimension is 5.5 inches. Both the Field Drawings and Team Version Drawings will be updated to show the revision in Team Update 04. (Edited to correct team update number)

I'm hoping they choose to change the fields and not change the drawings since so many teams have already been making decisions based on the published specs. We even already made a sheet metal rock wall to the originally published specs.

notmattlythgoe

20-01-2016 14:03

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Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1527303)

This will be coming out in Team update 4 Friday. HQ got the dimension of the Rock Wall wrong in both the team and field drawings and it's actually 5.5" wide instead of 4.5" (The height appears to have been correct).

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I'm hoping they choose to change the fields and not change the drawings since so many teams have already been making decisions based on the published specs. We even already made a sheet metal rock wall to the originally published specs.

It is also wrong in the CAD files.

RoboChair

20-01-2016 14:04

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We too have had a bent steel plate for our rockwall made as per specs.

However, I think for most teams the extra inch of width will make driving over it easier, not harder.

Chris is me

20-01-2016 14:09

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Team Update 5: GDC reveals that they actually meant to send us 5" dodgeballs instead of 10" dodgeballs. Teams should design accordingly!

Team Update 6: Due to a typo the Frame Perimeter was actually meant to be 100", not 120". Whoops!

Come on GDC. Hundreds of teams have committed to drivetrains at this point! This is a colossal oversight and a huge change 20% of the way through build season.

aldaeron

20-01-2016 14:13

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Originally Posted by RoboChair (Post 1527307)

However, I think for most teams the extra inch of width will make driving over it easier, not harder.

Unless you plan to straddle it ...

notmattlythgoe

20-01-2016 14:24

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FIRST should take the bath and update the fields on this one, not the other way around.

Basel A

20-01-2016 14:26

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Originally Posted by notmattlythgoe (Post 1527317)

FIRST should take the bath and update the fields on this one, not the other way around.

I agree 100%. This is not OK.

AdamHeard

20-01-2016 14:33

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It's a plate with 4 bends, FIRST should stick to the 4.5"

BoilerMentor

20-01-2016 14:38

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While, personally the 1" change in width doesn't much matter to me or my team for that matter, I almost hope that first doesn't change the fields. It's a good lesson for anyone going into engineering and technology fields. Customers do change their mind in the middle of aggressively scheduled projects, often more wildly than the change being discussed. Let's use some innovation and get over it, literally.

notmattlythgoe

20-01-2016 14:40

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Originally Posted by BoilerMentor (Post 1527324)

Those changes don't often hit the budgets of small town teams that have spent money on their designs and can't afford to change them. The lesson this would teach is not worth it.

Anupam Goli

20-01-2016 14:41

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Originally Posted by BoilerMentor (Post 1527324)

By that logic, we should get an extra week of build season since the initial specifications desired were wrong.

notmattlythgoe

20-01-2016 14:42

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Originally Posted by Anupam Goli (Post 1527331)

By that logic, we should get an extra week of build season since the initial specifications desired were wrong.

And FIRST should refund some of the registration fees to make up for the added cost. The lesson doesn't translate.

marshall

20-01-2016 14:44

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Originally Posted by notmattlythgoe (Post 1527334)

And FIRST should refund some of the registration fees to make up for the added cost. The lesson doesn't translate.

Yeah! I want my money back!

PayneTrain

20-01-2016 14:47

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Originally Posted by marshall (Post 1527338)

Yeah! I want my money back!

I've been holding on to these pitchforks for almost 2 years; let's do this!

notmattlythgoe

20-01-2016 14:48

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Originally Posted by PayneTrain (Post 1527342)

I've been holding on to these pitchforks for almost 2 years; let's do this!

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