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Kmonteith 20-01-2016 16:37

NEED HELP ASAP! Climbing
 
We are trying to design a mechanism to scale the tower! We want it to lock once it reaches the top so it doesn't back drive. We can't figure out how to do this. Can any one help.

EricLeifermann 20-01-2016 16:41

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Here you go.

rzoeller 20-01-2016 16:43

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Originally Posted by Kmonteith (Post 1527414)
We are trying to design a mechanism to scale the tower! We want it to lock once it reaches the top so it doesn't back drive. We can't figure out how to do this. Can any one help.

A worm gear would do.

Chris Endres 20-01-2016 16:43

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There are several ways of doing this, one would be a ratchet and pawl mechanism:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratchet_(device)

Another that is seen in FRC is a bike brake. This is a little more complicated, but a viable option.

EmileH 20-01-2016 16:44

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To prevent backdrive, you can use a disk or bike brake on the end of a drive shaft of an elevator that would raise/lower your robot. Team 696 used a pneumatic disk brake on their 2015 elevator.

EDIT: sniped

Matt C 20-01-2016 18:14

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Originally Posted by EricLeifermann (Post 1527416)

With a hex shaft.

jnicho15 20-01-2016 18:29

Re: NEED HELP ASAP! Climbing
 
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Originally Posted by EricLeifermann (Post 1527416)

548 actually used this on our shooter winch. We had a shifting gearbox with a CIM on it pulling back nylon webbing straps. When we "shifted", it detached the motor and CIM from the winch spool, allowing the shooter ram to extend.

Anthony Galea 20-01-2016 18:52

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In 2015, we cut the teeth off of a sprocket, mounted it to a hex shaft using a hex hub, and straddled it using a pancake cylinder with pads on both sides of the sprocket to clamp down on it. We had something in the code so that if the brake was applied, there was no way the motor could revieve power to try to overpower the brake.

sanelss 20-01-2016 19:01

Re: NEED HELP ASAP! Climbing
 
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Originally Posted by rzoeller (Post 1527417)
A worm gear would do.

depends on the ratio but don't be fooled, worm gears can still be back driven. We use 1:16 ones and they can be back driven pretty easily and certainly wouldn't hold a robots weight. A ratchet is the better answer

MaGiC_PiKaChU 20-01-2016 20:45

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this could do the trick if you're using a rope or cable


Scott L. 21-01-2016 19:31

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https://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-t33k8...1280.j pg?c=2

I have used this to raise heavy loads up a tower. worked great :D


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