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bEdhEd 22-01-2016 03:02

Team 701 Testing Intake to Shooter Ball Transfer
 
Here is our first test of transferring the boulder from the back roller of our intake to the shooter. We don't expect to be driving the shooter wheels this fast for the intake.

Cash4587 22-01-2016 04:23

Re: Team 701 Testing Intake to Shooter Ball Transfer
 
How much compression is being used on that shooter? It seems like more than I would have expected to be normal, am I right in assuming that it looks like 4" or so of ball compression?

bEdhEd 22-01-2016 04:33

Re: Team 701 Testing Intake to Shooter Ball Transfer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cash4587 (Post 1528226)
How much compression is being used on that shooter? It seems like more than I would have expected to be normal, am I right in assuming that it looks like 4" or so of ball compression?

Are you referring to the Colson wheels or the Banebot wheels?

mrnoble 22-01-2016 08:33

Re: Team 701 Testing Intake to Shooter Ball Transfer
 
Our teams must have a mind-meld. Ever since we played against you in Colorado in 2013, our designs have ended up with so many things essentially the same. Looks great!

bEdhEd 22-01-2016 10:57

Re: Team 701 Testing Intake to Shooter Ball Transfer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrnoble (Post 1528267)
Our teams must have a mind-meld. Ever since we played against you in Colorado in 2013, our designs have ended up with so many things essentially the same. Looks great!

You don't know how badly I've been wanting to compete at Colorado again, but this year's distant regional is Idaho, since its brand new. It would be great to get a PM with some description of the similarities and a few pics perhaps?

Valkonn 23-01-2016 19:56

Re: Team 701 Testing Intake to Shooter Ball Transfer
 
What kind of tubing is that? The orange one.

Mike Marandola 23-01-2016 20:25

Re: Team 701 Testing Intake to Shooter Ball Transfer
 
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Originally Posted by Valkonn (Post 1529122)
What kind of tubing is that? The orange one.

Urethane belting. It's very popular for game piece conveyors. A good example is 973 in 2009:

Valkonn 23-01-2016 22:13

Re: Team 701 Testing Intake to Shooter Ball Transfer
 
Both 973 and you used the orange one, which appears to only come in solid. Is there any reason to use the solid one over the hollow tubing?

Ty Tremblay 23-01-2016 22:47

Re: Team 701 Testing Intake to Shooter Ball Transfer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Valkonn (Post 1529182)
Both 973 and you used the orange one, which appears to only come in solid. Is there any reason to use the solid one over the hollow tubing?

I find solid easier to weld. With the use cases it's going to see in FRC, hollow is plenty strong enough.

Orion1 27-01-2016 11:21

Re: Team 701 Testing Intake to Shooter Ball Transfer
 
if you don't mind me asking, what are the small green wheels on the roller gripper made of?

asid61 27-01-2016 11:27

Re: Team 701 Testing Intake to Shooter Ball Transfer
 
Very nice! I will be looking forward to seeing how you arc the ball/ adjust angle for shots.

bEdhEd 27-01-2016 15:18

Re: Team 701 Testing Intake to Shooter Ball Transfer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by asid61 (Post 1530931)
Very nice! I will be looking forward to seeing how you arc the ball/ adjust angle for shots.

We had a very successful test yesterday with our pneumatic actuating system. Worked as expected on the first try! Now, it's a matter of tuning our angle and seeing if we could go for some smaller cylinders. With the angle and arc we hope to have, I predict that we may be able to shoot over any defenders that meet our front bumpers. The reason I predict this is because our 2012 robot Odin could shoot over our 2011 robot Valkyrie when bumper to bumper.

You can see that here. The great thing about this game is the height limit is much lower, and Valkyrie is much taller than any robot in this game (at least before the end game). It's important, however, to consider Odin's shooter shot from the middle of the robot frame, where our 2016 robot will shoot from right behind the bumper. So the tradeoff this year is closer-to-bumper shooter with smaller defense robots vs. middle of frame shooter with taller defense robots. We'll just have to see.

Tom Line 27-01-2016 15:34

Re: Team 701 Testing Intake to Shooter Ball Transfer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Orion1 (Post 1530930)
if you don't mind me asking, what are the small green wheels on the roller gripper made of?

Banebot wheels.

http://www.banebots.com/category/T40P-2875.html

MichaelBick 27-01-2016 15:41

Re: Team 701 Testing Intake to Shooter Ball Transfer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bEdhEd (Post 1531031)
You can see that here. The great thing about this game is the height limit is much lower, and Valkyrie is much taller than any robot in this game (at least before the end game). It's important, however, to consider Odin's shooter shot from the middle of the robot frame, where our 2016 robot will shoot from right behind the bumper. So the tradeoff this year is closer-to-bumper shooter with smaller defense robots vs. middle of frame shooter with taller defense robots. We'll just have to see.

There are a couple more variables involved. Some teams are thinking of shooting from further away with flatter trajectories. Those teams will be very block-able by a full height team using their 15" extension to block.

Libby K 27-01-2016 16:11

Re: Team 701 Testing Intake to Shooter Ball Transfer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ty Tremblay (Post 1529197)
I find solid easier to weld. With the use cases it's going to see in FRC, hollow is plenty strong enough.

We tend to use the aluminum connectors for the hollow (instead of welding) and it's worked like a charm for us.

The trick with hollow & the connectors is to 1) get a straight cut on the tube for both ends, and 2) not to reuse an end once you've pulled the connector out. Snip it a little bit so the scratched-up part is gone, and you've got a really solid belt even when re-using the connector.


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