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Rombus 26-02-2016 14:05

Re: Palmetto Regional Week 0.5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hallry (Post 1547535)
Match 26, Portcullis has been dislodged from Defense Platform during Autonomous.

So question, does this count as a Tortuga since the match was reset? I mean, did anyone think it was possible to Tortuga on the Portcullis?! :ahh:

carpedav000 26-02-2016 14:09

Re: Palmetto Regional Week 0.5
 
I see a lot of steel in FIRST's future :ahh:

Kevin Sevcik 26-02-2016 14:10

Re: Palmetto Regional Week 0.5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginger Power (Post 1547444)
I'm really curious as to what part of the Cheval de Frise is breaking. If anybody could post pictures that would be awesome. I'm sure it's where the hardware attaches the boards to the pivot bar. I don't think having something sticking up from the Cheval de Frise would be an acceptable fix though. Many teams present company included need a smooth surface for the mechanism to work. I'd rather see thicker boards than hardware sticking up.

You're not going to get thicker boards, there's just not enough time. They'd have to make and distribute enough parts for something like 30 fields. That's something like 500 ramps to make. If you want to know the kind of solutions they're thinking of, think back to the ball ramps in Breakaway. They weren't clearing balls effectively from under the bridges, so the solution was to install the ball ramps upside down.

Whatever they come up with is going to leverage existing custom parts and fix the problem with COTS items. Fender washers longer button head bolts sounds pretty likely. MAYBE some plasma cut plates to increase the bearing surface, since you can knock those out fast.

gafftron 26-02-2016 14:12

Re: Palmetto Regional Week 0.5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rombus (Post 1547547)
So question, does this count as a Tortuga since the match was reset? I mean, did anyone think it was possible to Tortuga on the Portcullis?! :ahh:

We saw one up at Week Zero https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEeI...outu.be&t=1m5s

It's a trickier defense to cross than expected.

Thad House 26-02-2016 14:13

Re: Palmetto Regional Week 0.5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Sevcik (Post 1547550)
You're not going to get thicker boards, there's just not enough time. They'd have to make and distribute enough parts for something like 30 fields. That's something like 500 ramps to make. If you want to know the kind of solutions they're thinking of, think back to the ball ramps in Breakaway. They weren't clearing balls effectively from under the bridges, so the solution was to install the ball ramps upside down.

Whatever they come up with is going to leverage existing custom parts and fix the problem with COTS items. Fender washers longer button head bolts sounds pretty likely. MAYBE some plasma cut plates to increase the bearing surface, since you can knock those out fast.

Actually, I bet they could come up with something. They have most of today to design, might be able to find a shop open on the weekend to make them, and could ship them all out monday, with the items being on time to the events next weekend. Now this would cost FIRST a TON of money, but I bet they would, because they can't afford the field breaking within 8 matches...

Nuttyman54 26-02-2016 14:14

Re: Palmetto Regional Week 0.5
 
While I agree it would be difficult, it's not without precedent. In 2014 they drop-shipped a lot of pre-cut Lexan to all week 2 events to cover the bars behind the high goal and prevent bounce-out.

I expect FIRST started working on the problem as soon as the first one broke this morning.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Sevcik (Post 1547550)
You're not going to get thicker boards, there's just not enough time. They'd have to make and distribute enough parts for something like 30 fields. That's something like 500 ramps to make. If you want to know the kind of solutions they're thinking of, think back to the ball ramps in Breakaway. They weren't clearing balls effectively from under the bridges, so the solution was to install the ball ramps upside down.

Whatever they come up with is going to leverage existing custom parts and fix the problem with COTS items. Fender washers longer button head bolts sounds pretty likely. MAYBE some plasma cut plates to increase the bearing surface, since you can knock those out fast.


magnets 26-02-2016 14:19

Re: Palmetto Regional Week 0.5
 
So far, the game actually looks pretty good - it's entertaining to watch because there's so much going on sometimes and there aren't too many robots sitting around doing nothing.

I've noticed very little defence in many of the matches I've watched. I'm wondering if it's because teams are focusing more on scoring at first or if it's because they're afraid of fouls.

As for the field... seriously?? Did they forget to test it or something? It failed in 3 matches.

vhcook 26-02-2016 14:20

Re: Palmetto Regional Week 0.5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rombus (Post 1547547)
So question, does this count as a Tortuga since the match was reset? I mean, did anyone think it was possible to Tortuga on the Portcullis?! :ahh:

I was expecting portcullis tortugas to be clotheslinings like the week 0 sample or having the bar catch between two protrusions in the robot top and basically pin them in place. Having a robot drive up the portcullis and end on their back bumper was a bit of a surprise.:eek:

ayeckley 26-02-2016 14:21

Re: Palmetto Regional Week 0.5
 
The revised CdF is 1/8" steel across the entire underside. Trying to get some help uploading a picture.

1988 26-02-2016 14:24

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https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...59&oe=574DE004

Revised CdF design, hot off the press.

The_ShamWOW88 26-02-2016 14:35

Re: Palmetto Regional Week 0.5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gafftron (Post 1547552)
We saw one up at Week Zero https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEeI...outu.be&t=1m5s

It's a trickier defense to cross than expected.

The Tortuga will haunt you.....:D

CalTran 26-02-2016 14:38

Re: Palmetto Regional Week 0.5
 
Woo 2200, 179, and 4847 just set the world high score at 114.

Hallry 26-02-2016 14:44

Re: Palmetto Regional Week 0.5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gafftron (Post 1547543)
First four audience selections were:

Cheval De Frise
Ramparts
Sally Port
Rough Terrain

Were these all the 2nd option during selection? It would be interesting to track how often this happens. I would figure the 2nd option might be chosen more than the 1st, since the audience knows how loud they have to yell to win.

ToddF 26-02-2016 14:46

Re: Palmetto Regional Week 0.5
 
Team Mittens!!!

CalTran 26-02-2016 14:48

Re: Palmetto Regional Week 0.5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ToddF (Post 1547578)
Team Mittens!!!

But actually though. ~1:30 for 1296 to bust all the defenses solo in Q33?


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