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Sperkowsky 26-01-2016 14:59

pic: FRC 2869 - 2016 Shooter
 

hardcopi 26-01-2016 15:00

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Looks good, nice and clean... those wheels though... they look like they might rip the ball up.

BryceKarlins 26-01-2016 15:00

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Are the Flywheels actually mounted that high? We've found that mounting them in the exact center works best.

BryceKarlins 26-01-2016 15:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hardcopi (Post 1530447)
Looks good, nice and clean... those wheels though... they look like they might rip the ball up.

If you sand down the edges of the wheel, they work great. Just spin them up on the shooter, and hold a piece of sandpaper up to them.

T3_1565 26-01-2016 15:06

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Looks like a nice simple way to score. Easy to build. Doesn't take up too much space. Looks easy enough to tweek and make a consistent shot out of it.

Nice job

Ginger Power 26-01-2016 15:06

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Looks awesome guys! Great work!

notmattlythgoe 26-01-2016 15:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BryceKarlins (Post 1530448)
Are the Flywheels actually mounted that high? We've found that mounting them in the exact center works best.

Just a heads up. Those aren't fly wheels.

Quote:

fly·wheel
noun
a heavy revolving wheel in a machine that is used to increase the machine's momentum and thereby provide greater stability or a reserve of available power during interruptions in the delivery of power to the machine.

jkelleyrtp 26-01-2016 15:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by notmattlythgoe (Post 1530455)
Just a heads up. Those aren't fly wheels.

Just so I understand, the "flywheel" part of a shooter would be the extra weight added and not the actual firing wheels themselves? While these wheels are not flywheels, is it safe to say that heavy shooting wheels are technically flywheels in their own right?

notmattlythgoe 26-01-2016 15:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jkelleyrtp (Post 1530470)
Just so I understand, the "flywheel" part of a shooter would be the extra weight added and not the actual firing wheels themselves? While these wheels are not flywheels, is it safe to say that heavy shooting wheels are technically flywheels in their own right?

Yeah, I guess a heavy shooter wheel would be a flywheel in itself.

Sperkowsky 26-01-2016 18:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BryceKarlins (Post 1530448)
Are the Flywheels actually mounted that high? We've found that mounting them in the exact center works best.

We updated it and put a small spacer. Making it slightly lower on the ball.

Orion.DeYoe 27-01-2016 17:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by notmattlythgoe (Post 1530455)
Just a heads up. Those aren't fly wheels.

Can you please provide me with a threshold for when a spinning object is considered "heavy"?

AdamHeard 27-01-2016 22:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Orion.DeYoe (Post 1531121)
Can you please provide me with a threshold for when a spinning object is considered "heavy"?

When it's a flywheel.

pilleya 27-01-2016 22:22

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A flywheel does not have to be heavy, to be able to store energy/momentum. The speed of rotation is also important as well.

Just look at Formula 1 Racing Flywheel System. They use 240 mm diameter flywheel which weighs 5 kg and spins at around 64,500 rpm. They can store enough energy to give a power boost of 60 kW for 6.67 seconds.

IndySam 28-01-2016 08:54

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a heavy revolving wheel in a machine that is used to increase the machine's momentum and thereby provide greater stability or a reserve of available power during interruptions in the delivery of power to the machine.

I can see both sides of this argument. In general when I think of a flywheel I think of something that stores energy and/or dampens. Personally I would not consider a shooter wheel a flywheel but I have no problem with those who choose to do so.

At least it's not a piston :)

Orion.DeYoe 28-01-2016 08:56

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Yeah, I was attempting to indirectly point out that you can't say a wheel is, or isn't, a flywheel based on its weight. Because whether or not it's "heavy" just depends on how much energy you need to store.

I just wanted to emphasize the fact that the OP's terminology was correct and that these are considered flywheels in this application.


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