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coachm 10-02-2016 18:13

Re: Bumper Rules
 
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OK. Here's one version that may be more clear. We mocked up cardboard as the actual bumpers. Our mentors are reading the rules like R24 and Figure 4-8 as being top views specifically and that leaves wiggle room for what you see from the sides. Example, the top area that is decidedly less that 8" is ok, because from the top view the bumper does extend 8". This is an area that we are arguing about. We also have a mockup version where that area is filled in, but our bumpers will be frickin' enormous! LOL. The red outlined bit of aluminum plate will be removed, and the metal edge will be behind the wheels from the front view, behind bumpers from the side.

GaryVoshol 10-02-2016 18:23

Re: Bumper Rules
 
While that piece of cardboard with the red tape may be 8" long, it certainly doesn't look like an 8 x 5 inch piece of plywood. I don't think it's going to fly unless you can explain how it meets R21.

coachm 10-02-2016 18:51

Re: Bumper Rules
 
There's a plan for a piece of aluminum framing that will back the 8"x5" (currently flappy) bumper piece. It's not installed yet as there are problems with the lift that will attach to it. So there will be a piece of metal frame, then a 5x8" plywood backing with that portion, so I don't see how that part is not compliant with R21. It's entirely possible I'm missing something, though.

BethMo 10-02-2016 19:55

Re: Bumper Rules
 
a) The blue section, on front of robot, seems very standard -- 8 inches long, normal bumper construction, within bumper zone. I'm assuming there's a matching section (not shown) on the other half of the front.

b) Green section: If the cardboard piece is meant to represent the shape of the bumper, then it doesn't meet the cross-section requirements shown in Figure 4-7 in the rules.

rich2202 10-02-2016 20:18

Re: Bumper Rules
 
Bumpers are 5 inches high. The 8 inch rule has no requirement of one continuous piece. So one high piece, and a second low piece, that are abutted and total at least 8 inches, may work.

TJP123 10-02-2016 22:45

Re: Bumper Rules
 
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Originally Posted by coachm (Post 1538232)
OK. Here's one version that may be more clear. We mocked up cardboard as the actual bumpers. Our mentors are reading the rules like R24 and Figure 4-8 as being top views specifically and that leaves wiggle room for what you see from the sides. Example, the top area that is decidedly less that 8" is ok, because from the top view the bumper does extend 8". This is an area that we are arguing about. We also have a mockup version where that area is filled in, but our bumpers will be frickin' enormous! LOL. The red outlined bit of aluminum plate will be removed, and the metal edge will be behind the wheels from the front view, behind bumpers from the side.

Read strictly as a top view, that might fly, but the rule also is very strict about the cross-section. The most generous interpretation I could give, paying attention to the cross-section, would be a high section that meets the criteria (but by itself is less than 8"), abutted to a low section does meet the criteria. I don't interpret that high-low bumper to meet the rules, but I'm not the one you have to convince.

Where you're clearly out of compliance is that low section which still looks way below the bumper zone. It's approximately even with the side of the frame, which is definitely lower than the midpoint of the wheel. Unless those are 10" wheels, I don't see 4" of clearance.


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