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AllenGregoryIV

31-01-2016 15:15

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Originally Posted by Sperkowsky (Post 1533003)

Is it illegal to modify the connectors ie shave off the inside tab.

I thought R66 would make this illegal but after rereading it I'm not sure that it does. This should be something that you Q&A.

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R66 The Driver Station software, roboRIO, Power Distribution Panel, Pneumatics Control Modules,
Voltage Regulator Modules, RSL, 120A breaker, motor controllers, relay modules, Wireless Bridge,
and batteries shall not be tampered with, modified, or adjusted in any way (tampering includes
drilling, cutting, machining, rewiring, disassembling, etc.), with the following exceptions:

Knufire

31-01-2016 15:18

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We also looked into using green SB50 connectors last year, but ditched the idea as soon as we realized each color was keyed differently. Not worth giving up compatibility with every other team in case you need to borrow/lend batteries at competition.

ratdude747

31-01-2016 15:42

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Originally Posted by Owen Busler (Post 1532892)

Are you asking if the blue Anderson connector is legal to use on your robot?

There are a lot of things in the picture... i dont think you would pass inspection with that laptop on your robot. But that waygo should be okay.

Nitpick: actually such a laptop would be legal if it were powered off a DC-DC converter and the battery removed as it is a COTS computing device. Obviously overkill, but perfectly legal by itself.

cgmv123

31-01-2016 15:56

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Originally Posted by ratdude747 (Post 1533014)

the battery removed as it is a COTS computing device.

The battery can stay if it's integral to the device.

timytamy

31-01-2016 18:48

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Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1532919)

*The pink is a special case where Anderson produced pink versions using the Red mold because they had to much of the pink plastic and wanted to use it for the donation.

That's neat, anywhere I can read more?

AllenGregoryIV

31-01-2016 19:02

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Originally Posted by timytamy (Post 1533111)

That's neat, anywhere I can read more?

Not that I know of, that is just what I heard from people at FIRST when I asked about it.

endreman0

31-01-2016 20:17

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The batteries should not include the connectors, because the batteries come without them (Source). So that should be legal, at least concerning R66.

iSpotix

31-01-2016 20:26

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Originally Posted by mrnoble (Post 1532907)

The color "blue" has been trademarked by teams 254, 341 and 1086 and is therefore not a legal color for other FRC robots, parts, or teams. Unfortunately you can expect legal action if you or your team use anything "blue". I would recommend against it.

So anyone who winds up on the blue alliance is screwed?

Sperkowsky

31-01-2016 20:56

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Originally Posted by iSpotix (Post 1533154)

So anyone who winds up on the blue alliance is screwed?

TheBlueAlliance.com has just been issued a take down notice.

MikLast

31-01-2016 21:55

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Originally Posted by mrnoble (Post 1532907)

i think you need an update explaining what "exactly" this trademark is going be used for :rolleyes:

ratdude747

31-01-2016 23:29

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Originally Posted by cgmv123 (Post 1533024)

The battery can stay if it's integral to the device.

..and this is why I'm not an RI. Whoops!

mrnoble

01-02-2016 00:27

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Originally Posted by MikLast (Post 1533190)

i think you need an update explaining what "exactly" this trademark is going be used for :rolleyes:

All things "blue" are their sole property. I would recommend not wearing "blue jeans" or listening to "blues" music while in the pits, for instance. Also I understand this is where all the blue BaneBots wheels have disappeared to over the last couple of years.

EricH

01-02-2016 00:41

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Originally Posted by mrnoble (Post 1533267)

FRC234 loudly objects.

:p:D:eek::rolleyes::p

For those that don't get it, that would be team Cyber Blue.

mrnoble

01-02-2016 07:14

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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1533268)

FRC234 loudly objects.

:p:D:eek::rolleyes::p

For those that don't get it, that would be team Cyber Blue.

I've edited the original post on the trademark "blue", per your reminder. I'd forgotten to list these original partners. Thanks, EricH! I'm sure I would have faced litigation myself soon.

Al Skierkiewicz

01-02-2016 07:33

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Originally Posted by ratdude747 (Post 1533014)

Nitpick: actually such a laptop would be legal if it were powered off a DC-DC converter and the battery removed as it is a COTS computing device. Obviously overkill, but perfectly legal by itself.

Please see R31...
In part it reads:
"Additionally, batteries integral to and part of a COTS computing device or self-contained camera are also permitted (e.g. laptop batteries, GoPro style camera, etc.),"

As to modifying the SB50/120 connectors, the intent of R66 is to prevent teams from modifying electrical items in such a way that would cause a safety issue. Removing anything from a high current electrical connector may affect the safe use of such an item. R9 is also a little more pertinent to this question. The SB connectors are tested by UL for specified current and voltage without parts removed.

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