Chief Delphi

Chief Delphi (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/index.php)
-   Rules/Strategy (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=6)
-   -   How many balls will you shoot during autonomous? (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142982)

Poseidon5817 01-02-2016 14:42

How many balls will you shoot during autonomous?
 
After seeing discussion on the low bar poll thread about how many teams will be able to do a two-ball auto, I wanted to see what teams are thinking without driving that thread farther off topic. How many balls is your team planning to score during autonomous per match at your first event? And don't worry, I made the poll results private, so you can tell the truth without fear of sharing secrets. :D

Lil' Lavery 01-02-2016 14:43

Re: How many balls will you shoot during autonomous?
 
I would be beyond thrilled with 18. ;)

RoboChair 01-02-2016 14:55

Re: How many balls will you shoot during autonomous?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1533518)
I would be beyond thrilled with 18. ;)

How are you planning to teleport balls? Or your robot? I was pretty sure that the battery couldn't supply the required power draw.

cait.schroeder 01-02-2016 15:03

Re: How many balls will you shoot during autonomous?
 
Im doubting that there will be a lot of shooting during autonomous especially high goal.

Lil' Lavery 01-02-2016 15:15

Re: How many balls will you shoot during autonomous?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RoboChair (Post 1533525)
How are you planning to teleport balls? Or your robot? I was pretty sure that the battery couldn't supply the required power draw.

OP asked how many balls we would score in autonomous at our first event. I'll leave the rest as an exercise for the reader. ;)

jwfoss 01-02-2016 15:16

Re: How many balls will you shoot during autonomous?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1533529)
OP asked how many balls we would score in autonomous at our first event. I'll leave the rest as an exercise for the reader. ;)

Someone wants to make it to the finals, but not sweep the elimination rounds?

MrJohnston 01-02-2016 15:24

Re: How many balls will you shoot during autonomous?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cait.schroeder (Post 1533528)
Im doubting that there will be a lot of shooting during autonomous especially high goal.

I think there will be lots of shooting.... Maybe not much scoring, but definitely lots of shooting....

We'll definitely be shooting one at the high goal...Once several routines are dialed in (different positions, different defenses) and our vision-tracking is consistent, we'll be exploring more interesting options that might involve multiple boulders.... Of course, we need to have more robot built than we have now to even think about it.

GaryVoshol 01-02-2016 16:47

Re: How many balls will you shoot during autonomous?
 
Sean's in the District system. He wants 12 quals, 2 quarters, 2 semis and 2 final matches. Shooting once in each.

Not sure how many balls everyone will shoot. Maybe we should count BOULDERS? ::rtm::

Caleb Sykes 01-02-2016 17:13

Re: How many balls will you shoot during autonomous?
 
"Shoot" and "score" are two very different things. I believe that many teams will shoot 1 ball in auto. Not many of those teams will be scoring though.

pandamonium 01-02-2016 17:20

Re: How many balls will you shoot during autonomous?
 
I really think that the 2 ball auto is not as difficult as everyone thinks.

Poseidon5817 01-02-2016 17:25

Re: How many balls will you shoot during autonomous?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Caleb Sykes (Post 1533573)
"Shoot" and "score" are two very different things. I believe that many teams will shoot 1 ball in auto. Not many of those teams will be scoring though.

The poll was meant to measure how many balls a team plans on scoring. I'm sure a team won't be planning to shoot 2 balls in auto but only score 1 going into their first event, they'll be planning to make both, even though that might not actually happen.

GeeTwo 01-02-2016 17:27

Re: How many balls will you shoot during autonomous?
 
The way we see it, if you can't score on a high goal in autonomous, you can't score on a high goal. There are just too many obstructions to aim from your own castle. It may be possible to do this using a teleop camera, but by the time you get enough resolution to take aim, your frame rate over the network is terrible, at least for a regular video stream.

Kevin Sevcik 01-02-2016 17:31

Re: How many balls will you shoot during autonomous?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pandamonium (Post 1533577)
I really think that the 2 ball auto is not as difficult as everyone thinks.

How would you compare the difficulty of a penalty free 2 ball auto this year to a 7-disc auto in 2013? Keeping in mind that in 2013, there weren't any obstacles to traverse. It was just shoot 3, drive forward and intake, shoot 4.

Tottanka 01-02-2016 17:31

Re: How many balls will you shoot during autonomous?
 
According to G13 you may not contact the Midline's volume. If that's where the boulders are located, how exactly are you planning on collecting more balls during auto, without any penalties?

MrJohnston 01-02-2016 17:38

Re: How many balls will you shoot during autonomous?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tottanka (Post 1533586)
According to G13 you may not contact the Midline's volume. If that's where the boulders are located, how exactly are you planning on collecting more balls during auto, without any penalties?

You have to have a ball acquisition manipulator that doesn't need to grab but about 1/3 of the ball to pick it up.... Your autonomous routine needs to have precise control of the robot's location.... You have to be able to do it all quickly.... Picking up the extra boulder, crossing a defense with it and scoring it is not the hard part.... Doing so without committing a mid-line foul and all under 15 seconds is the hard part....

We had one of the better three-tote autonomous routines last year and, as we have analyzed this, we do think it will be trickier to pull off than last year's routine.... It can be done, but will the time it takes to develop it be justified by an extra 10 points a match?


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:57.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi