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anishde 02-05-2016 06:32 PM

Re: How many balls will you shoot during autonomous?
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that a robot is only allowed to control one boulder at a time, inclusive of autonomous?

vann2648 02-05-2016 07:00 PM

Re: How many balls will you shoot during autonomous?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by anishde (Post 1535711)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that a robot is only allowed to control one boulder at a time, inclusive of autonomous?

This is correct. 2 ball autonomous would involve acquiring and shooting the second boulder all after shooting the first

anishde 02-07-2016 06:58 PM

Re: How many balls will you shoot during autonomous?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vann2648 (Post 1535726)
This is correct. 2 ball autonomous would involve acquiring and shooting the second boulder all after shooting the first

Then shooting more than two balls (or even two balls) during autonomous is an ambitious task...since you can't possess more than one ball at a time, and you can't shoot boulders over the outer works, this would entail:

1. Passing through the outer works
2. Shooting (and perhaps scoring)
3. Going back through the outer works
4. Collecting another boulder
5. Crossing the outer works for a third time
6. Shooting (and perhaps scoring)

I don't mean to be a pessimist, but I have strong doubts anyone's going to try to do that in 15 seconds.

washedout 02-08-2016 08:25 AM

Re: How many balls will you shoot during autonomous?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Copioli (Post 1534105)
The 3 Boulder Auton is the Lochness Monster of 2016. Many people will claim it, but no one will actually achieve it.

Now, I have been wrong before....

I agree Paul. And it saves me from having to print any stickers this season.

MrJohnston 02-08-2016 02:24 PM

Re: How many balls will you shoot during autonomous?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by anishde (Post 1536626)
Then shooting more than two balls (or even two balls) during autonomous is an ambitious task...since you can't possess more than one ball at a time, and you can't shoot boulders over the outer works, this would entail:

1. Passing through the outer works
2. Shooting (and perhaps scoring)
3. Going back through the outer works
4. Collecting another boulder
5. Crossing the outer works for a third time
6. Shooting (and perhaps scoring)

I don't mean to be a pessimist, but I have strong doubts anyone's going to try to do that in 15 seconds.

Many teams will *try* to have a two-boulder autonomous. Some will succeed. Of this, I am absolutely certain. No, it will not be easy.

MrJohnston 02-08-2016 02:27 PM

Re: How many balls will you shoot during autonomous?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by washedout (Post 1536832)
I agree Paul. And it saves me from having to print any stickers this season.

If anybody has a two-boulder autonomous that shoots its second boulder with more than a couple of seconds left, they are almost certain to take a serious look at doing three.... I'm not convinced anybody will pull it off, but every year I have thought that there would be something that "nobody" would be able to do - and I have been wrong every year.... If I had to guess, I would say that about five teams will make a legitimate attempt at pulling it off. One will succeed - but not be able to do it consistently.

anishde 02-08-2016 03:34 PM

Re: How many balls will you shoot during autonomous?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrJohnston (Post 1537023)
Many teams will *try* to have a two-boulder autonomous. Some will succeed. Of this, I am absolutely certain. No, it will not be easy.

The reason why I'm relatively certain that few to no teams will actually succeed in scoring two boulders is because the last time there was a similar game with an obstruction between the starting position and the goal was Breakaway in 2010, in which robots could also typically only control one ball at a time. In autonomous that year, little to no scoring was done, with teams instead focusing on moving the balls around the field.


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