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Humberto fig 06-02-2016 16:11

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EricH 06-02-2016 16:12

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OK, I'll bite on this one:

My first thought was "What about bumper supports?"

MrBasse 06-02-2016 16:13

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How is the back wheel held in? I see axles and nuts on the front two...

Joe G. 06-02-2016 17:07

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Are those stretched-out bike tires?

Humberto fig 06-02-2016 17:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1536085)
OK, I'll bite on this one:

My first thought was "What about bumper supports?"


We have already solved the bumper issue, but we want to see if you find any restriction on it.

Humberto fig 06-02-2016 17:19

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Originally Posted by MrBasse (Post 1536087)
How is the back wheel held in? I see axles and nuts on the front two...

its directly connected to the motor, that is what its holding it

Humberto fig 06-02-2016 17:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe G. (Post 1536117)
Are those stretched-out bike tires?

yes they are.

EricH 06-02-2016 17:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Humberto fig (Post 1536122)
We have already solved the bumper issue, but we want to see if you find any restriction on it.

Might want to show your solution. What I'm seeing is an articulated frame perimeter (something about the tracks being beyond the frame, and forming the perimeter).

MrBasse 06-02-2016 18:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Humberto fig (Post 1536123)
its directly connected to the motor, that is what its holding it

Cool idea, how well does it work? What size are those wheels? For that matter, what are those wheels? What gear ratio are you running?

Kevin Sevcik 06-02-2016 19:30

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My first thought upon seeing any novel tank tread solution is to wonder whether the treads are going to fall off the pulleys. In your case, I'm also wondering how much effective traction you're going to have, since you're limited by the metal-rubber coefficient of friction instead of knobby rubber-carpet.

cbale2000 06-02-2016 20:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Humberto fig (Post 1536123)
its directly connected to the motor, that is what its holding it

Is the entire system running off of just 2 CIMs (1 on each side), and are those planetary gearboxes they're driving (if so, what reduction)?

My biggest concern, in addition to the one mentioned above about getting enough traction, is whether or not you'll be able to turn at all with this. Generally the scrub on a high traction drive requires teams to use at least 4 CIMs on their drive system to avoid stalling their motors when attempting to turn.

Jeffy 06-02-2016 20:59

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Have you driven it under full robot weight yet? Usually ~150lbs.

pilleya 06-02-2016 21:01

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Originally Posted by cbale2000 (Post 1536203)
Is the entire system running off of just 2 CIMs (1 on each side), and are those planetary gearboxes they're driving (if so, what reduction)?

My biggest concern, in addition to the one mentioned above about getting enough traction, is whether or not you'll be able to turn at all with this. Generally the scrub on a high traction drive requires teams to use at least 4 CIMs on their drive system to avoid stalling their motors when attempting to turn.

I would expect that there is a CIM on each of the front and back "wheels/pulleys".

cbale2000 06-02-2016 21:31

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Originally Posted by pilleya (Post 1536221)
I would expect that there is a CIM on each of the front and back "wheels/pulleys".

If there is a CIM in the back, it would appear to be driven differently than the one in the front, as there is a threaded rod supporting the back wheel but not the front.

pilleya 06-02-2016 22:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cbale2000 (Post 1536237)
If there is a CIM in the back, it would appear to be driven differently than the one in the front, as there is a threaded rod supporting the back wheel but not the front.

It looks like your correct, so if this is the case and it is only 2CIM, then it will be interesting, that means that there is also 1/2 the friction area of the pulley against the tread, that I thought that there was. It looks like a BB 220 gearbox and while it is a rugged gearbox Banebots says " We recommend using a design that supports the end of the shaft", probably isn't a huge problem here as the wheel is close to the face, but something to be aware of


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