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Hallry 12-02-2016 15:37

Team Update 10 (2016)
 
https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.n...Updates/10.pdf

IronicDeadBird 12-02-2016 15:38

Re: Team Update 10 (2016)
 
Um hello G35?
I'm not seeing any actual use for this.

Thad House 12-02-2016 15:41

Re: Team Update 10 (2016)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IronicDeadBird (Post 1539259)
Um hello G35?
I'm not seeing any actual use for this.

Camera tracking could be considered control, and its possible for an alliance member in the spy box to control the camera of a robot.

jvriezen 12-02-2016 15:53

Re: Team Update 10 (2016)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IronicDeadBird (Post 1539259)
Um hello G35?
I'm not seeing any actual use for this.

I'm seeing this as a huge strategic opportunity.

IronicDeadBird 12-02-2016 15:54

Re: Team Update 10 (2016)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jvriezen (Post 1539267)
I'm seeing this as a huge strategic opportunity.

I'm seeing it as a nightmare for q'ing up.

Nate Laverdure 12-02-2016 15:56

Re: Team Update 10 (2016)
 
If something pulses "at 0.5 Hz for 3 seconds" then it pulses 1.5 times.

GeeTwo 12-02-2016 15:57

Re: Team Update 10 (2016)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IronicDeadBird (Post 1539259)
Um hello G35?
I'm not seeing any actual use for this.

See Q803.


Edits:
Quote:

Originally Posted by jvriezen (Post 1539267)
I'm seeing this as a huge strategic opportunity.

You're welcome; that's why I asked.

Quote:

Originally Posted by IronicDeadBird (Post 1539269)
I'm seeing it as a nightmare for q'ing up.

It will usually be easier for an ASL or other recon signer to learn to use flags or Q-codes in the queue than for a flag signaler to learn enough ASL to be useful.

TikiTech 12-02-2016 15:57

Re: Team Update 10 (2016)
 
This will mean a new version of Cheezy Vision.

Robot based control camera for autonomous manual targeting and dive.

:eek:

Aloha!

BBray_T1296 12-02-2016 15:58

Re: Team Update 10 (2016)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate Laverdure (Post 1539272)
If something pulses "at 0.5 Hz for 3 seconds" then it pulses 1.5 times.

Probably should be 1 Hz with 50% duty cycle

IronicDeadBird 12-02-2016 15:59

Re: Team Update 10 (2016)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeeTwo (Post 1539273)

Yeah it is possible now but that doesn't make it practical.

MasterMentor 12-02-2016 16:01

Re: Team Update 10 (2016)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TikiTech (Post 1539274)
Robot based control camera for autonomous manual targeting and dive.

Not so fast. G14 still applies.

-G

TikiTech 12-02-2016 16:25

Re: Team Update 10 (2016)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterMentor (Post 1539279)
Not so fast. G14 still applies.

-G

Quite true.. Just remove autonomous from my previous statement.

Seems cumbersome to have a spy controlling the robot, though could be useful since there is potentially many things in the line of sight from the drivers station...

Could be interesting..

GeeTwo 12-02-2016 16:42

Re: Team Update 10 (2016)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IronicDeadBird (Post 1539277)
Yeah it is possible now but that doesn't make it practical.

I'm sure other people have more grandiose plans, but the main thing I think it will be used for is to tell the robot which way and how far to turn to find a boulder, target, or defense well enough for the driver or semi-auto targeting routines to take over. Something like "boulder at 4-o'clock".

Foster 12-02-2016 16:44

Re: Team Update 10 (2016)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TikiTech (Post 1539292)
Quite true.. Just remove autonomous from my previous statement.

Seems cumbersome to have a spy controlling the robot, though could be useful since there is potentially many things in the line of sight from the drivers station...

Could be interesting..

So I'm thinking the robot can see a spy with a reflective tape hat so they can lock onto the spy. The robot can do simple color matches, so I can see holding two flags (*) below the hat. One with red and green sides, one with blue and white sides. Green forward, red reverse. Blue left, white right. No color, stop. Might mean the spy has to wear a black shirt (**).

Lots of teams working on vision, this may be a time to make that effort pay off.

(*) I was really thinking large ping pong paddles with colors on each side, but flag works too.

(**) Danger is if it sees a Wildstang shirt the robot will break into a happy dance.

billbo911 12-02-2016 16:47

Re: Team Update 10 (2016)
 
EDIT GeeTwo correctly pointed out that G14 does indeed prohibit direct interaction with the robot during Auto.
Thus, my comment below about G14 is incorrect. EDIT


Quote:

Originally Posted by jvriezen (Post 1539267)
I'm seeing this as a huge strategic opportunity.

It really has my juices flowing!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by TikiTech (Post 1539274)
This will mean a new version of Cheezy Vision.

Robot based control camera for autonomous manual targeting and dive.

:eek:

Aloha!

EXACTLY THIS!!! Two retro tags held by the Spy to guide the robot.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterMentor (Post 1539279)
Not so fast. G14 still applies.

-G

G14 applies to interaction with the driver's console, not the robot.


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