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ICE_Bear 18-02-2016 20:41

Battery Rules
 
Where are the battery rules in the Game Manual? I looked through the manual to try to find them, but I didn't find anything.

EricH 18-02-2016 20:42

Re: Battery Rules
 
R31 has them.

ICE_Bear 18-02-2016 20:47

Re: Battery Rules
 
From what I read, there's only one rule for how we mount the battery... Is that correct? Or is there a section or rule other than R33 about the mounting?

EricH 18-02-2016 20:55

Re: Battery Rules
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ICE_Bear (Post 1542452)
From what I read, there's only one rule for how we mount the battery... Is that correct? Or is there a section or rule other than R33 about the mounting?

That is correct.

I'll go a little more in-depth: Orientation (for use) doesn't really matter, though on the side or upright tends to be best. (For charging, upright is important.)

But what you're really after is making sure the battery doesn't move within the robot. Just using velcro might not do the trick; I know for a fact that duct tape is not going to be all that helpful. Many teams will build a battery box into their robot to hold it in one position, and then use velcro or a buckled strap to secure it down.

ICE_Bear 18-02-2016 20:59

Re: Battery Rules
 
We have a mounting kit from Andymark that sits on it's side, would we be able to use that in a vertical position?

ICE_Bear 18-02-2016 21:01

Re: Battery Rules
 
http://www.andymark.com/product-p/am-2939.htm

EricH 18-02-2016 21:08

Re: Battery Rules
 
I don't see why you wouldn't be able to. How you do that, though, is up to you.

ICE_Bear 18-02-2016 21:08

Re: Battery Rules
 
Thank you :)

bdaroz 18-02-2016 23:53

Re: Battery Rules
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ICE_Bear (Post 1542460)
We have a mounting kit from Andymark that sits on it's side, would we be able to use that in a vertical position?

We are doing exactly that this year - in fact the kit fits nicely in a spare piece of KoP Chassis C-Channel turned face down.

Disclaimer: Rookie Team - Rookie Mentor -- Assume I have no idea what I'm talking about. :)

cbale2000 19-02-2016 01:58

Re: Battery Rules
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1542456)
That is correct.

I'll go a little more in-depth: Orientation (for use) doesn't really matter, though on the side or upright tends to be best.
(For charging, upright is important.)

Could you elaborate on this? Our current battery charger design has the batteries laying down. What is the downside of doing this? Do we have to completely redesign and rebuild our battery cart?

nighterfighter 19-02-2016 02:44

Re: Battery Rules
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cbale2000 (Post 1542582)
Could you elaborate on this? Our current battery charger design has the batteries laying down. What is the downside of doing this? Do we have to completely redesign and rebuild our battery cart?

If the batteries need to vent when charging, they are designed to do so while sitting vertically.

FrankJ 19-02-2016 07:05

Re: Battery Rules
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cbale2000 (Post 1542582)
Could you elaborate on this? Our current battery charger design has the batteries laying down. What is the downside of doing this? Do we have to completely redesign and rebuild our battery cart?

My preference is to charge upright. Truth is it really doesn't matter 99.9% of the time. My UPS has one of its batteries permanently upside down. The battery manufactures generally do not recommend this. Flat is OK. AGM & glass mat batteries have very little free liquid in them. Using a smart charger & charging at recommended charge rates is more important then battery orientation.

rich2202 19-02-2016 07:28

Re: Battery Rules
 
We go through so many batteries that we would never think to charge the battery while on the robot. So orientation is not an issue for us.

Regarding the battery mounting rule:
Quote:

R33 The ROBOT battery must be secured such that it will not dislodge should the ROBOT be turned over or placed in any arbitrary orientation.
"arbitrary orientation" includes turning the robot upside down. Basically, once secured, there is no way to remove the battery. All 6 sides of the battery must be restrained.

Some people use "compression" to hold the battery (squeeze the sides of the battery). I personally don't like it. I would much rather see a strap across the top.

FrankJ 19-02-2016 08:20

Re: Battery Rules
 
Keep in mind going over the defenses loads the robot is many directions. Having the battery really secure is going to be way more important than in years past.

philso 19-02-2016 09:24

Re: Battery Rules
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FrankJ (Post 1542602)
Keep in mind going over the defenses loads the robot is many directions. Having the battery really secure is going to be way more important than in years past.

Would a robot that is E-Stopped because it's battery bounced out while crossing one of the DEFENSES be considered a Tortola?


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