Chief Delphi - Withholding Allowance

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marshall

01-03-2016 12:05

Re: Withholding Allowance

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Originally Posted by Dave McLaughlin (Post 1549574)

Thank you for clarifying, could you please elaborate as to if these robots were bagged or un-bagged? If they were un-bagged, and were brought to the event for what I assume would be the purpose of spare parts, when would the 30 lbs. for withholding come into play?

They were unbagged but make no mistake they were practice robots. I'm not sure when the 30 lbs would come into play to be honest. It seems to me like that happens at load-in. I never saw those robots or components being brought into the event so I am by no means accusing anyone of anything non-GP here... just pointing out that many teams do take their practice robots to competition.

EricLeifermann

01-03-2016 12:07

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Sounds like everyone who is complaining is jealous that they didn't get to do it/ didn't think of it as well.

It was 100% legal and incredibly smart, well done 900. I hope it helps you succeed this year.

notmattlythgoe

01-03-2016 12:07

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Originally Posted by marshall (Post 1549577)

Well, you don't want them to be all alone at home. They might feel abandoned.

FrankJ

01-03-2016 12:08

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Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1549573)

What is in your trailer isn't illegal at all

I agree, but most of the LRIs I have talked wishes that it was so. The temptation to go grab the fabricated part to repair your broken robot can be pretty high in the heat of the moment. As Chris pointed out all your fabricated parts must be brought in at load in. Everything else stays in the trailer. Considering the creative interpretations of the bumper rules, i can where people will creatively interpret this rule as well.

marshall

01-03-2016 12:09

Re: Withholding Allowance

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Originally Posted by notmattlythgoe (Post 1549581)

Well, you don't want them to be all alone at home. They might feel abandoned.

Actually, leaving them unattended is how the robot uprising will begin.

PayneTrain

01-03-2016 12:11

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Originally Posted by notmattlythgoe (Post 1549581)

Well, you don't want them to be all alone at home. They might feel abandoned.

They're already pretty mad they didn't get picked to actually compete so...

notmattlythgoe

01-03-2016 12:11

Re: Withholding Allowance

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Originally Posted by marshall (Post 1549583)

Actually, leaving them unattended is how the robot uprising will begin.

If you attempt to bring all of your past robots to the Rumble in the Roads this year I will be very disappointed. Impressed, but disappointed.

notmattlythgoe

01-03-2016 12:12

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Originally Posted by PayneTrain (Post 1549588)

They're already pretty mad they didn't get picked to actually compete so...

marshall

01-03-2016 12:14

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Originally Posted by notmattlythgoe (Post 1549589)

If you attempt to bring all of your past robots to the Rumble in the Roads this year I will be very disappointed. Impressed, but disappointed.

If we do then can we use the 2014 bot on this game? I feel like shooting a 2 foot exercise ball at a castle will be more entertaining.

notmattlythgoe

01-03-2016 12:15

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Originally Posted by marshall (Post 1549591)

If we do then can we use the 2014 bot on this game? I feel like shooting a 2 foot exercise ball at a castle will be more entertaining.

If you do you have to yell BOOM every time you shoot it. This will simulate that you've invented cannons before everyone else.

Michael Corsetto

01-03-2016 12:15

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Depending on how this all shakes out, we may build four robots next year. Bag two and practice with two.

Robot breaks? No problem! Get the second robot inspected and keep playing!

I recommend FIRST sets a 150lb weight limit for all contents of the "bag".

-Mike

notmattlythgoe

01-03-2016 12:16

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Originally Posted by Michael Corsetto (Post 1549593)

Well, if 2 is better than 1. Obviously 4 is better than 2!

#4champs

Dave McLaughlin

01-03-2016 12:18

Re: Withholding Allowance

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Originally Posted by Michael Corsetto (Post 1549593)

I could not agree more, although we may have to settle for building 3.

FrankJ

01-03-2016 12:20

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Q. R18. "For Teams attending 2-Day Events, ... FABRICATED ITEMS constructed during the Robot Access Period and bagged with the ROBOT are exempt from this limit." Can the referenced "FABRICATED during Robot Access Period" items be direct replacement spare parts (not installed to the robot) as long as they are bagged with the robot? If yes, can they be bagged in a separate, tagged bag, for ease of transport?
2016-03-01 by FRC0234
A. Yes, any additional FABRICATED ITEMS built during the Robot Access Period may be bagged with the ROBOT, as per R18 of the Game Manual, or in additional bags, per Section 5.2 of the Admin Manual. Please be aware that Team Update 12 amended Section 5.2 of the Admin Manual to say that you may only use a maximum of two (2) bags.

Is the two bag limit going to be known as the Zebracorn amendment? Too bad they forgot to specify the bag size.:eek:

EricLeifermann

01-03-2016 12:28

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Originally Posted by Michael Corsetto (Post 1549593)

Better yet save your money and time and lets just get rid of Bag and Tag and call it even.

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