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Lil' Lavery 21-03-2016 14:50

Re: 2016 MAR Season
 
Anyone doing the mathematical tracking and prediction of where the DCMP cutoff will be?

rocpe 21-03-2016 16:46

Re: 2016 MAR Season
 
1626 Falcon Robotics would like to thank our alliance partners 2590 Nemesis and 365 MOE for the honor and the opportunity to run with them at MAR Seneca. Thank you for believing in us and taking a chance on us. 1626 will remain part MOEbot and part Nemesis forever. In all, we were aided by almost half of the teams present in our efforts to stay on the field and improve after we broke in our Saturday Practice match. Special thanks to Jack in the MAR machine shop who fabricated about 10 custom parts for us and to Matt and his crew from 1089 Mercury that kept us in ideas, raw materials and manpower. This event showed the Best of the FIRST community and it's concept of gracious professionalism.

Our friends from 1640 Sabotage,4573 Rambots and 6203 Blue Devil's were true intense competitors and were genuinely gracious in defeat. We offer them our congratulations and respect. They were true gladiators and warriors.

The Iron Devil's, 1647, were fantastic hosts and we congratulate them on their well-earned Chairman's Award. We also can't thank enough all of the hard-working and dedicated volunteers that make this event special.

Hallry 21-03-2016 17:50

Re: 2016 MAR Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1560557)
Anyone doing the mathematical tracking and prediction of where the DCMP cutoff will be?

Going off of last year's rankings, the cutoff was around 50 ranking points when taking into account declined invitations to DCMP. I would expect roughly the same to be true this year.

galewind 21-03-2016 18:06

Re: 2016 MAR Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben Martin (Post 1560380)
Thanks!

I watched some Seneca footage last night, and I was very impressed with the 2590 & 365 alliance. We definitely have our work cut out for us to make our outer works shots more consistent for Westtown and MAR Champs. :)

We're thinking the same thing, Ben. We might need to tighten our error angle when we're > 11ft out. That said, we were pleased with our performance when our machine was functioning. We thankfully got a lot of that resolved, too :)

Big Kid 21-03-2016 23:04

Re: 2016 MAR Season
 
Congratulations to the Winning Alliance and the Runner-Ups at Seneca. As always a great event to watch and participate in.

I have one request, if anyone has a good picture of the (unfortunately failed attempt) of the the 816-87 robot stack (aka "Seneca Stack"), can you you please link it or send it to me that would be great.

Deetman 21-03-2016 23:13

Re: 2016 MAR Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Kid (Post 1560808)
Congratulations to the Winning Alliance and the Runner-Ups at Seneca. As always a great event to watch and participate in.

I have one request, if anyone has a good picture of the (unfortunately failed attempt) of the the 816-87 robot stack (aka "Seneca Stack"), can you you please link it or send it to me that would be great.

The event webcast recording has it. https://youtu.be/57vRw9xYj4M?t=8h50m2s

Hallry 01-04-2016 11:36

Re: 2016 MAR Season
 
Lot of MAR action happening this weekend. Some of interest:

Regional Plays
South Florida
11
87
2590
4575

Queen City

2016

Third District Plays
Bridgewater-Raritan
193
219
1279
4281

Westtown
1218
708
1640
1391

First Timers
Bridgewater-Raritan
555
714
1672
1989
3314 (Already played at Waterbury NE District Week 1 and Buckeye Regional Week 3)
5895 (Rookie)
5992 (Rooke)


Here are the webcast links for Bridgewater-Raritan and Westtown this weekend:

Bridgewater-Raritan - Apr 1st to Apr 3rd, 2016
Westtown - Apr 1st to Apr 3rd, 2016
And, as usual, Team 1676 will be uploading our full-field footage of all of Bridgewater-Raritan's Qualification and Elimination Matches, as well as the Alliance Selections and Awards Ceremony, onto our YouTube Channel, and I'll be updating my unofficial 2016 MAR Ranking Google Doc A.S.A.P.


Good luck to all!

The Lucas 01-04-2016 13:15

Re: 2016 MAR Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hallry (Post 1566063)
First Timers
Bridgewater-Raritan
555
714
1672
1989
3314 (Already played at Waterbury NE District Week 1 and Buckeye Regional Week 3)
5895 (Rookie)
5992 (Rooke)

Looks like 6216 (Rookie) did not compete at Springside, so let's hope they make their debut at Westtown

Hallry 01-04-2016 23:25

Re: 2016 MAR Season
 
It's worth noting that it appears 3637 is now registered for the World Championships via the waitlist. I don't recall whether or not this takes away from MAR's 22 World Championship slots (I don't believe it does, but don't quote me on that), nor do I remember what happens if they additionally qualify for STL by winning, earning a qualifying award, or being given a point slot at MAR Champs.

Link07 02-04-2016 18:40

Re: 2016 MAR Season
 
Congrats to 2590, who were finalists at South Florida and earned a wildcard spot to the Championship. Also congrats to 11, who won the South Florida Chairman's Award.

For those counting, that's 3 point slots deducted from MAR's overall total (1676 CA, 2590 Finalist, 11 CA)

alephzer0 02-04-2016 21:13

Re: 2016 MAR Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hallry (Post 1566342)
It's worth noting that it appears 3637 is now registered for the World Championships via the waitlist. I don't recall whether or not this takes away from MAR's 22 World Championship slots (I don't believe it does, but don't quote me on that), nor do I remember what happens if they additionally qualify for STL by winning, earning a qualifying award, or being given a point slot at MAR Champs.

Waitlist slots do not count against MAR. As to your second question, they will still count the slots against MAR. If those teams would get points slots, we simply don't lose any slots (i.e. the bar is still set at the 22nd ranked team) but if they rank below the bar will be raised (up to possibly the 19th ranked team in this case).

DonRotolo 02-04-2016 22:29

Re: 2016 MAR Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hallry (Post 1566342)
(I don't believe it does, but don't quote me on that)

Sorry, I just cannot resist. :p

AGPapa 03-04-2016 18:27

Re: 2016 MAR Season
 
Well there goes week 5! With only event left before MAR Champs we should expect invites for teams with mathematical locks on a DCMP bid to go out early this week. (Last year it was Tuesday).

We (5895) had a blast at the Bridgewater-Raritan event! Congratulations to 1676, 5624 and 223 for winning! I also really liked team 25's robot, they took the already fantastic robot they had at Hatboro and added an amazing scaling mechanism.

Also congratulations to 225, 1640 and 1391 for winning Westtown. The Westtown roster looked very challenging, and I look forward to watching the webcast recording.

Finally, congratulations to 11 for winning the Chairman's Award in South Florida!

Quote:

Originally Posted by alephzer0 (Post 1566643)
Waitlist slots do not count against MAR. As to your second question, they will still count the slots against MAR. If those teams would get points slots, we simply don't lose any slots (i.e. the bar is still set at the 22nd ranked team) but if they rank below the bar will be raised (up to possibly the 19th ranked team in this case).

I believe this is correct, but the reverse-wildcards rules are fairly arcane so I'm not sure (there may be a difference between points slots and winning/awards).

I also think it comes down to FIRST Mid-Atlantic being given discretion to give points slots to any team they want, so they can skip over waitlist teams when giving out points slots. They can't do the same for awards.

EDIT: I'm actually not sure if FIRST Mid-Atlantic can skip over waitlist teams for points slots, I thought that is what happened in 2014, but I was mistaken. There was a very complicated chain of events in 2014 that Ryan summarizes here.

Jscout11 03-04-2016 21:05

Re: 2016 MAR Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AGPapa (Post 1566954)
EDIT: I'm actually not sure if FIRST Mid-Atlantic can skip over waitlist teams for points slots, I thought that is what happened in 2014, but I was mistaken. There was a very complicated chain of events in 2014 that Ryan goes summarizes here.

I'm not positive, but I think last year 1403 was skipped over for points slot because they already got in through the waitlist.

Brian Maher 03-04-2016 21:43

Re: 2016 MAR Season
 
Congratulations to the winning alliance at Bridgewater of 1676, 5624, and 223! Those were some intense finals matches; you certainly earned your banner! Congratulations to 1676 on EI and 869 on Chairman's Award. I had no idea 869 had such an impressive outreach program! A thank you to teams 25, 3340, and 555 for being a part of 1257's first ever #1 alliance!

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGPapa (Post 1566954)
Well there goes week 5! With only event left before MAR Champs we should expect invites for teams with mathematical locks on a DCMP bid to go out early this week. (Last year it was Tuesday).

I've put together a list of those mathematical locks. Congrats to all these awesome teams that have secured their MAR Championship qualification!
Code:

1 225
2 2590
3 1676
4 1257
5 5624
6 365
7 1218 DCA
8 11
9 25
10 193
11 708 DCA
12 1640
13 834
14 341
15 4573
16 1391
17 5404
18 1403
19 869 DCA
20 4454
21 5407
22 1626
...
37 1647 DCA
...
54 1923 DCA
...
78 321 DCA
...

It was calculated as:
55 (teams at DCMP) - 7 (DCA teams) - 19 (teams with second play remaining, excluding 1923 with their DCA) = 19, plus the Chairman's teams.


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