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Sperkowsky 28-02-2016 17:27

Re: OM5P-AP wifi dropping out
 
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Originally Posted by Chris_Ely (Post 1548579)
The Robot Access Period is a replacement for the practice day at a traditional 3-day regional. As the manual states, teams may do anything they would normally do during Build Season during the Robot Access Period. This includes adding, removing, and replacing parts. The radio is also a COTS part, and it does not count against the Withholding Allowance.

yea but, if this was a practice day at a regional a team would not have a week to fix an issue with a part.

R.C. 28-02-2016 17:31

Re: OM5P-AP wifi dropping out
 
I don't even understand why people care... Honestly I'd rather have these guys ready to go and kick butt vs spend the entire day debugging a radio...

Sperkowsky 28-02-2016 17:34

Re: OM5P-AP wifi dropping out
 
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Originally Posted by R.C. (Post 1548584)
I don't even understand why people care... Honestly I'd rather have these guys ready to go and kick butt vs spend the entire day debugging a radio...

I do agree with that. I also think Bag day should be revised. But, that is a discussion for a different thread.

R.C. 28-02-2016 17:45

Re: OM5P-AP wifi dropping out
 
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Originally Posted by Sperkowsky (Post 1548589)
I do agree with that. I also think Bag day should be revised. But, that is a discussion for a different thread.

Then there is no need to post that information here, we should keep posting about how to fix their issue. I'm sure many teams will have radio issues this year.

camtunkpa 28-02-2016 17:53

Re: OM5P-AP wifi dropping out
 
Please let's get this back on topic. Thank you to those who have already made helpful suggestions.

Also don't worry the radio in question will not end up on the competition bot as we would never trust it for competition.

Chris_Ely 28-02-2016 17:56

Re: OM5P-AP wifi dropping out
 
Could there be a loose connection inside the radio?

Alan Anderson 28-02-2016 22:49

Re: OM5P-AP wifi dropping out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by camtunkpa (Post 1548425)
One thing we do question is that our wifi light never lights on our radio.

Everybody seems to be ignoring this clue.

You're sure the green light doesn't come on at the end of the radio boot sequence? That would mean the OM5P either is not properly configured, or is just plain broken.

I'd start by making doubly certain that the firmware and configuration are correct. Then I'd take apart the router and look for debris or damage.

team222badbrad 28-02-2016 22:52

Re: OM5P-AP wifi dropping out
 
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Originally Posted by Alan Anderson (Post 1548780)
Everybody seems to be ignoring this clue.

You're sure the green light doesn't come on at the end of the radio boot sequence? That would mean the OM5P either is not properly configured, or is just plain broken.

I'd start by making doubly certain that the firmware and configuration are correct. Then I'd take apart the router and look for debris or damage.

The wifi light never came on during our robot access period.

We did take apart the router and found no issues or metal chips.

We did notice that the router was "singing". I am not sure if that is normal or not.

The students did update the firmware. We will have to double check to make sure it was done correct.

camtunkpa 01-03-2016 09:48

Re: OM5P-AP wifi dropping out
 
Update: We have tried just about all the suggestions so far. We wired the radio into our practice bot and are now 99% sure we have a defective radio. We left the radio completely alone and it would stay connected as long as we wanted. The original 80 second time was probably due to somebody that was holding the radio moving. If we tapped on the center of the front of the radio we could instantly cause a reboot state on the radio. The tap that caused the reboot takes less force than it takes to click my mouse button. Reboot time of the radio in case anybody is wondering is one minute twenty seven seconds.


We took the radio apart looking for loose connections and everything seemed good.

At this point we are dead ducks sitting in the water hoping Andymark ships our replacement in time for our week one competition. :eek:

rrossbach 01-03-2016 12:16

Re: OM5P-AP wifi dropping out
 
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Originally Posted by camtunkpa (Post 1549469)
At this point we are dead ducks sitting in the water hoping Andymark ships our replacement in time for our week one competition. :eek:

Hey Cliff - have CC'd you on a PM connecting you with the CSA at Mt Olive this weekend....he's planning on having extra spares available so hopefully no matter what happens you'll get up and running. I'm CSA'ing at Hatboro so won't be there but I'm sure there will be plenty of help to get you up and running. Best of luck!

- Ron
Team #2607 controls mentor

camtunkpa 01-03-2016 12:31

Re: OM5P-AP wifi dropping out
 
Thanks Ron!

camtunkpa 02-03-2016 09:30

Re: OM5P-AP wifi dropping out
 
Again Thanks for everybody's help. Fedex delivered our new OM5P yesterday and everything seems good to go. We also contacted open mesh and we are sending the problem unit back to them in exchange for a new unit.

billbo911 02-03-2016 09:58

Re: OM5P-AP wifi dropping out
 
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Originally Posted by camtunkpa (Post 1550122)
Again Thanks for everybody's help. Fedex delivered our new OM5P yesterday and everything seems good to go. We also contacted open mesh and we are sending the problem unit back to them in exchange for a new unit.

Now THAT is awesome!
Glad to see Open Mesh is standing behind their product.

You must admit, we don't really treat these radios as they were intended. I really doubt the design team ever considered mounting these on a mobile platform and pounding the snot out of them.

Maybe it is time for FIRST to consider creating design specs for a radio and seeing if anyone would be willing to manufacture something specific to our needs. Something secure, and can handle LOTS of shock load!

team222badbrad 02-03-2016 17:17

Re: OM5P-AP wifi dropping out
 
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Originally Posted by billbo911 (Post 1550146)
Now THAT is awesome!
Glad to see Open Mesh is standing behind their product.

You must admit, we don't really treat these radios as they were intended. I really doubt the design team ever considered mounting these on a mobile platform and pounding the snot out of them.

Maybe it is time for FIRST to consider creating design specs for a radio and seeing if anyone would be willing to manufacture something specific to our needs. Something secure, and can handle LOTS of shock load!

The unit we had had no run time on it. It was installed on the robot, but it had never been driven.

dradel 02-03-2016 17:31

Our team is less than impressed with the new radio this year. The power connection is at best weak, takes longer to connect than the previous radio.
Here is to hoping andymark vex or cross the road makes a radio meant for our application.
Imagine a small chassis radio like this years, but with waggo connections, and a zip tie mounting option.
One can dream.


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