IN District - Tippecanoe Event 2016
 

I didn't see a thread for this yet.

I'm excited to see everyone next week.

Any updates on these teams?

45 TechnoKats Robotics Team Kokomo, Indiana, USA
68 Truck Town Thunder Ortonville, Michigan, USA
135 Penn Robotics Mishawaka, Indiana, USA
292 PantherTech Russiaville, Indiana, USA
447 Team Roboto Anderson, Indiana, USA
461 Westside Boiler Invasion West Lafayette, Indiana, USA
829 Digital Goats Indianapolis, Indiana, USA
868 TechHOUNDS Carmel, Indiana, USA
1024 Kil-A-Bytes Indianapolis, Indiana, USA
1501 Team THRUST Huntington, Indiana, USA
1646 Precision Guessworks Lafayette, Indiana, USA
1701 RoboCubs Detroit, Michigan, USA
1741 Red Alert Greenwood, Indiana, USA
1747 Harrison Boiler Robotics West Lafayette, Indiana, USA
2171 RoboDogs Crown Point, Indiana, USA
2197 Las Pumas New Carlisle, Indiana, USA
2360 Tech Titan's POWER-Storm Indianapolis, Indiana, USA
2909 Zebra Bots Rochester, Indiana, USA
3147 Munster HorsePower Munster, Indiana, USA
3176 Purple Precision Brownsburg, Indiana, USA
3180 Blaise of Glory Trafalgar, Indiana, USA
3357 COMETS Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA
3494 The Quadrangles Bloomington, Indiana, USA
3559 Thundercats Jasper, Indiana, USA
3865 Riley WildBots South Bend, Indiana, USA
3936 RoboBlitz Michigan City, Indiana, USA
3940 CyberTooth Kokomo, Indiana, USA
4103 Roborioles Avon, Indiana, USA
4272 Maverick Boiler Robotics Lafayette, Indiana, USA
4485 Tribe Tech Robotics Danville, Indiana, USA
4791 Pandroids South Bend, Indiana, USA
4824 BerryBots Logansport, Indiana, USA
4846 G.I. Frost Bots Gary, Indiana, USA
4926 GalacTech Columbus, Indiana, USA
4982 Olympus Robotics Fort Wayne, Indiana, USA
5188 Area 5188 : Classified Robotics Terre Haute, Indiana, USA
5402 Iron Kings Walton, Indiana, USA
5403 Aluminosity Bedford, Indiana, USA

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Us and Thrust will be down in North Carolina this weekend at the Guilford District.

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I've been stoked since the announcement of the even back in the fall. An excuse to visit my old school, I'll take it.

This is an event I never though was possible, since with Purdue next door it always seemed like they would hold the area events. To go from a team stuck in a file storage room (2006) to a team hosting a district event 10 years later, is something I didn't see coming.

Getting to scorekeep at my alma mater, that is cool. See you all there :D

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4103 will be there, we're really excited and feel like we have a chance to go far. It's our first competition of the year though, so we will see.

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And Cyberblue too?

http://www.firstinspires.org/team-ev...event?id=17513

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The COMETS are looking forward to competing in the Indiana District. Our last appearance to Indiana was for the 2012 IRI event. It will be tons of fun to meet people and get to know teams outside of our normal region of play!

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This is looking to be one of Indiana's best seasons yet! Good luck teams!

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I'm surprised that so many MI teams made it into this event. IIRC the Tippecanoe even was the first IN event to fill up.

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Cyber Blue Too (34)

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Yup, but they're not attending Tippecanoe.

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Nice to be seeing Michigan teams again. 3 this year but only 68 is a repeat from last year and the event they went to was Kokomo. Wish I could attend this event as a spectator, but sadly I'm busy that weekend.

P.S. The first two teams I went to were 135 and 1024. I love how 135 has 4 wheels and 1024 has 10. Neither being the stereotypical 6 or 8. I'm curious to see how 4 wheels do especially. I haven't see any other robots with 4 wheels.

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If you looked at the right time you would have seen us registered for the event a week later in Indianapolis. ( i believe thats where it was) However a spot opened up at tippecanoe and we were able to switch events. it works alot better for us competing week 2 with you guys and then returning to michigan for weeks 4 and 5. versus competing in weeks 3,4,5 right back to back. Michigan competes Friday-Saturday with load in thirsday night so we wouldnt even get 4 days between competing in Indianapolis and our michigan district in Lansing.

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You can find some images from 4926 at:

https://www.facebook.com/Columbus-Ro...5539754895807/

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45 TechnoKats Robotics Team Kokomo, Indiana, USA
68 Truck Town Thunder Ortonville, Michigan, USA
135 Penn Robotics Mishawaka, Indiana, USA
292 PantherTech Russiaville, Indiana, USA
447 Team Roboto Anderson, Indiana, USA
461 Westside Boiler Invasion West Lafayette, Indiana, USA
829 Digital Goats Indianapolis, Indiana, USA
868 TechHOUNDS Carmel, Indiana, USA
1024 Kil-A-Bytes Indianapolis, Indiana, USA
1501 Team THRUST Huntington, Indiana, USA
1646 Precision Guessworks Lafayette, Indiana, USA
1701 RoboCubs Detroit, Michigan, USA
1741 Red Alert Greenwood, Indiana, USA
1747 Harrison Boiler Robotics West Lafayette, Indiana, USA
2171 RoboDogs Crown Point, Indiana, USA
2197 Las Pumas New Carlisle, Indiana, USA
2360 Tech Titan's POWER-Storm Indianapolis, Indiana, USA
2909 Zebra Bots Rochester, Indiana, USA
3147 Munster HorsePower Munster, Indiana, USA
3176 Purple Precision Brownsburg, Indiana, USA
3180 Blaise of Glory Trafalgar, Indiana, USA
3357 COMETS Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA
3494 The Quadrangles Bloomington, Indiana, USA
3559 Thundercats Jasper, Indiana, USA
3865 Riley WildBots South Bend, Indiana, USA
3936 RoboBlitz Michigan City, Indiana, USA
3940 CyberTooth Kokomo, Indiana, USA
4103 Roborioles Avon, Indiana, USA
4272 Maverick Boiler Robotics Lafayette, Indiana, USA
4485 Tribe Tech Robotics Danville, Indiana, USA
4791 Pandroids South Bend, Indiana, USA
4824 BerryBots Logansport, Indiana, USA
4846 G.I. Frost Bots Gary, Indiana, USA
4926 GalacTech Columbus, Indiana, USA
4982 Olympus Robotics Fort Wayne, Indiana, USA
5188 Area 5188 : Classified Robotics Terre Haute, Indiana, USA
5402 Iron Kings Walton, Indiana, USA
5403 Aluminosity Bedford, Indiana, USA

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Can one of the mods move this to district events folder?

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Here is a better video of 4272's robot.

https://youtu.be/30j1Vx33iRo

Cant wait to see all of the robots at the competition!!

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Competition is so close. We are even more excite to present Catalina, our 2016 FRC Stronghold Robot. Enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbcnfqxGfSM

Robot Facts:
Robot Name: Catalina
History of Robot Names: Every year we go out and do research to find a comet that effects the earth in some way. This helps tie into our imagery since we are the COMETS.

Drive style: Tank
wheels: 2 tank treads
drive train: 2 CIM, 2-speed ball shifter x2
11 motors on robot
5 air cylinders


Find us at the event to learn more! we would love to meet new friends.
See everyone tomorrow!
Josh

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I don't know if T.H.R.U.S.T wants a picture of their bot on chief delphi or not but their robot was awesome at Guilford. They were by far the most underrated team via the ranking score ranks. Keep up the good work. Can't wait to see you (and your great high shooting capabilities) at Perry.

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Yes, please do not post picture of our robot. One will be coming soon.
Thanks for the props :)
Good luck at your next event.

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Does anyone know the cause of field faults on match 2?


Also I'm glad the stream is decent.

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Did the stream miss match 1?

First match of the year and they got a capture! Way to go 1024 /292/ 1701. Seems like 2/3 of the 2015 district championship team had a good additional MI team to kick off the 2016 IN districts.

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Anyone know if the stream will be archived yet? I can't watch it much over the weekend. Thanks.

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I have uploaded video of all 1747's matches and most of the elimination matches.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...XQSRbiXWyekewe

Thanks to our alliance partners 1024 and 45 for an amazing weekend. We're looking forward to competing again next week.

*Non 1747 matches are on channel not in playlist.

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I heard that in the FMS system this year, that both ref's scoring panels have to agree / be committed on the auto crossing score before teleop starts. I think teleop was starting before the ref panel auto scores were submitted, which then no field sounds... So working out how the new field "works". I am sure the Indiana crew will give feedback to FMS engineers.

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Red Alert had a great time at Tippecanoe. FIRST Stronghold is fun to watch and fun to play.

Wow, this game is rough on robots. I had said going in that it was going to be a war of attrition, and it sure was.

Thank you, 3357 and 2171, for being great alliance partners. We worked really well together and were able to put up a strong showing through the semi-finals. I just wish we all could have stayed operational long enough to eek out a few more wins.

Congratulations to 868 for your District Chairman's Award. You've really done well the last few years developing into a shining example for other teams.

Congrats to 2197 on winning EI.

Congratulations to 1024, 1747, and 45 for your win. It was hard fought and you guys deserve it.

All in all, great tournament. Obviously some issues with event flow, but that's typical with a first-time event. We're looking forward to competing again next week, and the week after, and hopefully 3 weeks after that, and finally 2 weeks after that. :D

Good luck, on your next (or first) event next week Indiana teams!

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Heya Chris-

How were the boulders being scored. I rewound your QF3-3 match a few times and it would appear that you scored 9 boulders, but were only credited for the first 7. Even the announcer said you only needed one more, or did something else occur that I'm not aware of?

Unfortunately, I'm not mentoring this year, so I haven't read the tournament details.

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It's possible some of the matches are labeled wrong. If I have the wrong match number for a match please let me know and I'll fix it

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That moment when the Sally port turns off your robot...

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The ref's have a BIG JOB this year watching this game. I can't imagine sitting there trying to watch all the fouls, and everything they do. In this game, they might miss a defense crossing, or a foul. At some point I am sure teams get frustrated, but they have to remember we are only human.

Well I will miss seeing you with Argos! Hope all is going well.

To answer your last question, never before in past games has it been very important that all three robots work all the way to the end. There is a feature in this game in eliminations that you have to shoot 8 boulders to take castle. (we did that part), however to get 25 bonus points, all three robots have to be on the castle batter. We would have tied QF3-3 had our alliance robot not been dead. So it's tougher this year if you think about. Two robots can't carry the win like in games past. Those 25 points are a deal breaker.

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Did I miss something or do they not announce the District Woodie Flowers nominees at each district event?
They weren't announced at the Tippy event.

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Opening ceremonies on Sunday, they announced them.

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Sorry to bring this up again, but I'm trying to get it soon. Does anyone know where (or if) the live stream was archived? I know the individual matches aren't up yet, but did someone upload the whole 8h or so stream? Thanks!

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Does anyone know what light 1024 was using.

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I only saw a few brief minutes of the qualification matches. But those eliminations -- wow! From the first seconds of Quarterfinal 1-1 (high score of the day, right?) to literally the last seconds of Final 3, there was more than enough action and excitement to go around.

Putting on my orange hat for a bit:

I'd like to thank all the teams who graciously accepted any of my unsolicited advice as I walked around looking at robots. I also appreciate the fact that I didn't have any angry mentors to deal with this year.

I want to apologize to at least two teams for spending so much time trying to debug problems that eventually went away only after replacing the roboRIO, or for failing to find a bad connection in the power path until late on the last day of the event. I would like to offer my continuing help by reviewing any software that teams want to post here (or send to me privately).

And I'll see you all again in the next couple of weeks!

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I uploaded elimination matches and 1747s qualification matches. The live stream was not recorded due to technical difficulties. Hopefully the event will be archived next week.

Link to videos is in my previous post

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What do you guys think about the overall outcome of the event. Who were the unexpected teams to do really well? Who were the dark horses? It seems like there were only a few consistent high goal shooters. There was one particular one other than 1024, 1501, and 1747. Can't think of the name, I think they won Industrial Design or something. Whoever they were, they performed really well.

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Hello All
I took allot of pictures at the event. You can see them here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/teamthrust1501/albums
If you are unable to copy them, get the photo number (DSC_xxxx) to me and I will send them to you.
I also have allot of volunteer pictures.

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That would be 4982, Olympus Robotics, from Fort Wayne, Indiana. According to our scouting data, they had 17 goals in the high and 10 goals in the low. 4th highest high goal shooter at the event.

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I didn't get to watch any Tippecanoe matches -- was tad busy in St. Joe.

Video of 1747 practicing (TBA) shows very high quality crossing and accurate high shot from outer works. I look forward to seeing 1024 and 1501 in the videos uploaded today.

TBA Insights indicate a very high level of play at Tippecanoe, particularly the 44% Capture rate in eliminations. Also, low success rate (13%) on Sally indicates the refs were having trouble seeing clearance on solo attempts. I was reffing at St. Joe, where we used hand signals between courtyard and outer works refs to confirm door clearance on solo Sally attempts, and our success rate (54%) may be due to that. Hopefully refs will sees all the crossings better as the season progresses.

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Boulders are scored automatically, not by the refs. In order for a boulder to be scored, it HAS to end up in the corral. Unfortunately, this means that for a high goal, if it goes in one and out the other, it does not count. Additionally, occasionally a boulder would get stuck in the opening of the tower. Usually this would only be taken into account if it affects the outcome of the match - ie if the winning alliance had a stuck boulder, there's not much point in changing the score to reflect that.

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I can't speak for other teams but we(1747) didn't Sally port with the exception of the one match that we needed to do it for the breach. In that one match the refs marked the crossing correctly. We decided that the time spent to get the 5th defense crossing was better spent shooting a ball which got us closer to capturing the tower. This may change later in the season as alliances become more capable of quickly capturing the tower.

I do agree with the assessment that refs do need to get better at seeing and recording crossings of defenses. With the frequency of missed defense crossings and the lack of visibility of the lights on the defenses there is no reliable way to confirm that defenses have actually been breached. I would like to see the addition of a screen displaying tower and defense strength to the alliance station like in 2014.

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There were many 4/5 breaches occurring in qualification matches (with the Class C defense ignored often) due in part to, I think, the low margin of error between capturing and not capturing in quals. Many alliances had the potential to capture in qualifications, even if they didn't have one of the big shooters, but in order to do so they would have to hurry to score enough boulders. Due to this, most alliances completely ignored the 5th defense once the breach had occurred.

My conjecture is that as the probability for successful capture approaches some constant c, the probability of breaking all 5 defenses (as opposed to only 4) decreases significantly. The level of play at Tippecanoe was around this point where going for the last defense was unnecessary for the win, and would have cost alliances a chance for the capture.

It's apparent that the lights at the front of defenses and on the side of the tower are intended to be signals of the field's state to drivers, but most of those lights are in a spot with poor visibility, plus many of them seem to either not work or are delayed during a match. FIRST is hopefully working on devising a better system than that. I noticed during this past weekend that the blue alliance had a tremendous advantage in that they were able to view the big screen right behind them in order to see tower and defense strengths and match time easily, while red alliance would struggle to see the screen due to the blue tower being in the way.

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That coupled with the fact that the 2nd screen with the scores was on the opposite side of the field of the red driver's station and facing the blue driver's station.

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We had a couple of shots (at least 3) go in the left side of the goal and come out the right side of the goal. We were surprised because our catapult isn't too powerful and we were pretty far back (outer works).

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We had a few as well, with quite a bit more energy behind the shot. I can't explain it. I've re watched a number of times and I cant find a correlation. I was hoping it would be related to shooting position, looks like bad luck. It may be related to the split in the plastic behind the goal, but that's my only theory.

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During our prototyping and testing phase of build season, we had this happen multiple times. We figured out that if you line your shot up at the right (or in this case wrong) position, it'll fly through the other end. We found that simply angling your robot helps keep from missing.