Chief Delphi - Removal of Low Bar Fabric

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PayneTrain

05-03-2016 00:15

Re: Removal of Low Bar Fabric

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Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 1551542)

AKA most of chief.

I'll have you know that I don't like anything, including exercise.

You already knew, didn't you

Anupam Goli

05-03-2016 00:22

Re: Removal of Low Bar Fabric

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Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 1551542)

AKA most of chief.

This is where I get to brag about my workout routine, right?

Travis Hoffman

05-03-2016 00:35

Re: Removal of Low Bar Fabric

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Originally Posted by orangemoore (Post 1551455)

If they are going to remove the fabric at some events they should remove it at all events.

There is now an obvious inconsistency for teams to play in. FIRST either needs to fix the fabric OR remove it permanently.

We have a winner.

My favorite FIRST gameplay-related word EVER has re-appeared in 2016. Inconsistency is back, my people!

Should be fun times ahead. :cool:

XaulZan11

05-03-2016 01:01

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Gonna be fun when FIRST overreacts to all the field issues this years and has a completely empty field next year. #neverforgetnodefense2015

EricH

05-03-2016 01:10

Re: Removal of Low Bar Fabric

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Originally Posted by XaulZan11 (Post 1551553)

Gonna be fun when FIRST overreacts to all the field issues this years and has a completely empty field next year. #neverforgetnodefense2015

2014-style?

Madison

05-03-2016 02:15

Re: Removal of Low Bar Fabric

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Originally Posted by Nuttyman54 (Post 1551487)

Same call was just made at PNW Auburn Mountainview after all three low bar fabrics were ripped. The final destruction was pretty epic...ripped entirely in half, the lower bar and attached fabric ended up fully clear of the outer works.

Our fault. :)

Citrus Dad

05-03-2016 02:36

Re: Removal of Low Bar Fabric

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Originally Posted by Richard Wallace (Post 1551517)

^ Cobwebs. From Shelob.

Seeing what happened to 67 today at Waterford, giant spider webs could not have done worse.

Not being able to see webcasts today, what happened to them?

Richard Wallace

05-03-2016 06:34

Re: Removal of Low Bar Fabric

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Originally Posted by Citrus Dad (Post 1551575)

Not being able to see webcasts today, what happened to them?

Sorry I cannot find video yet.

They impaled the low bar curtain with their arm, and could not get free again. Not sure if they e-stopped or were disabled, but what I recall is that they did not move the rest of the match.

I hope someone who was there can correct my account

FIMAlumni

05-03-2016 09:32

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The Waterford District has just removed the low bar fabric. Same penalty addition as every other event.

scca229

05-03-2016 09:32

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Fabric is back on the low bar at GTCR. Red now, so maybe a different type? Can anyone there gives us any details?

Joe G.

05-03-2016 09:46

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The low bars just got removed entirely during granite state practice matches. A robot that couldn't quite fit bent it pretty severly.

orangemoore

05-03-2016 09:51

Re: Removal of Low Bar Fabric

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Originally Posted by scca229 (Post 1551616)

Fabric is back on the low bar at GTCR. Red now, so maybe a different type? Can anyone there gives us any details?

My bet is that they sourced some bumper fabric from a nearby team. Also it looks like they are missing the lower bar.

XaulZan11

05-03-2016 10:46

Re: Removal of Low Bar Fabric

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Originally Posted by FIMAlumni (Post 1551615)

The Waterford District has just removed the low bar fabric. Same penalty addition as every other event.

Last Waterford match had at least two boulders roll under the low bar to the far side of the field with no penalty. The whole 'intent' is really messy...

I think FIRST should be very thankful the field issues have changed the game for everyone and hasn't really benefited/hurt specific designs or strategies. Imagine the outrage if the field issues were on the batter or castle so robots couldn't batter shoot or climb.

daniel12997

05-03-2016 11:01

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The biggest strategy problem that it could cause would be the great human players. Removing the fabric and adding a penalty would make bowling around the low bar much riskier.

Oblarg

05-03-2016 11:25

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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1551557)

2014-style?

Yes, please.

Even if I didn't think the damage to field elements were a problem, this year was obnoxious simply because it was far too onerous to expect most teams to build all these goddamn wooden monstrosities to be able to test their robot.

Worst part is, we don't have the room to store them next year so we're going to have to take the time to take them all apart again, too. Perhaps a bonfire is in order...

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