What do you use to make your team site!?
 

I was wonding what software, scripting language, or whatever you use to design develop the team site.
its would be great if you guys could mention why you choose to use that perticular sofware of languagelike php or cgi.


Monta Vista Robotics Team
mvrt.com
also have mvrt.org

Status v2 alomost complete
Photoshop for graphics
Dreamweaver MX for writing php, for basic html and CSS and javascript.
I love dreamweaver for styles is very easy to create style sheets and create tables through it. It is also great editing tool for website related files with syntax highlighting.
I've used php because of many reasons, mainly because its very easy to implement it with mysql. Also is my favorite scripting lang.
I do know cgi but i dont like using it.
Main components of the website. there are 3 main components for the webite that are made by php.
The calendar, news posting, image gallery.
The image gallery script is a huge script by called 4images and i have customised to fit the site design. php also makes the page loading faster.
javascript is used for the nifty navigation system.
Write know there are many things needed to be implemented though thats going to be the project of my this years website team. Its not fully compatible with netscape, mozilla and opera and the site team is going to do that in the next few months.
over all the site has dramatically chaged from V1 which is www.mvrt.com/v1/

Akshay Dodeja

CoffeeCup www.coffeecup.com

chiefdelphi.com, behind the scenes, involves HTML, PHP, CSS, and some CGI (PERL).

I edit everything with vi or vim, unless it involves the forums, which is all template based and editable on the admin webpage.

The other pages all have a PERL script that generates the menu at the top.

And HTML/CSS is used throughout the site.

a MySQL database holds all the data for the forums, white paper, picture gallery, and other interactive areas.

I dont like FrontPage, its way too bloated. It is good, though, if you don't want to ever actually look at the code, and if you like all the MS extras. (and know that your users can see all those little extras)

I used CoffeeCup HTML editor waaay back when I was learning HTML, but then got sick of it, and started using Notepad. Then, once all my sites were hosted on remote UNIX servers, I just started SSH'ing in, and editing on the server with Pico. Once I learned vi in college, I started using that as my main editor.

i used to use notepad to do my editing but i have switched to dreamweaver only because i can have all of my files open and accessable at once. I don't use any of dreamweavers tools, just as an overglorified notepad :) it helps alot though so i can remember what i changed and what i need to upload.

MySQL is the db and i use my own homemade user system, news system, links, and soon calendar and photos.

p.s. (If anyone knows an easy way to do a calendar thing in php help would be much appreciated. You would post an event and time which would be thrown into mysql and then i want a table calendar view. I know it can be done, im just really busy right now to try and figure it out.)

vi all the way :) All my coding (HTML or Perl) is done in it.

Gimp for images. It's like Photoshop...but nicer. And cheaper. Like a lot cheaper. Free. Free is nice. I feel more at home with the Gimp than Photoshop. It does about the same things...except for some of the super-special-effects that nobody will ever use in Photoshop.

I despise WYSIWYG editors. *shudder* Anyone that can't write HTML shouldn't be making webpages It is, by far, the easiest language out there.

I run Apache 1.3.26 and use Perl 5.8.0 (recently upgraded from 5.6.1) (Hopefully I will be getting a server soon...then no more hosting a webpage on the stupid family PC...dedicated linux server! w00t!)

I think PHP4 is also a module in Apache. I started to learn PHP...but I gave up due to my love for Perl :)

PHP4 is a module in apache and also has a cgi executable which is crappy.
/me likes php cause its like c++ but a little better.

php is a lot easier then c++... thats why i love it... you can do hecka lot of cool things.... btw mvrt backend is totally powered by php and mysql... if i already didnt mention that....

Perl is sooo much cooler :)

The only thing I don't like about perl is that it wasn't _really_ made for web use. Because of that, it is really slow and resource intensive in most cases. Yes, Perl can do pretty much anything you want, but it takes a while.

Mmm...which is why I use it for much more than just webpages. And yeah...it is a bit slow in some areas...but it's still awesome :)

Sites with statements like "Site Best viewed in 1024x768. IE 5.5+ Compatible only!" are awful. Don't makes IE specific websites. No offense, Akshay, I just hate that.

netscape doesnt show any sites correctly. it's not my fualt that people use a browser that doesnt work.

Grrrrr :mad:

It's not that Netscape doesn't display website correctly. It's just bad web design with no regard for standards that makes them not show correctly in Netscape. People are designing just for Internet Explorer's self imposed web standards, not the W3 standards, that's the problem. Besides, there are lots of other browsers besides IE and Netscape. You're all a bunch of dullards if you agree with David.

www.team639.org is all made by hand... all php, perl, cgi, html use notepad... the hardcore way. images, obviously, are edited with photoshop. we're changing servers right now so the authentication process is messed up and under changes. as for those people who think netscape is messed up, you are wrong. I personally prefer IE, but NN is perfectly fine. you should always verify your code with w3c. it's not at all the browsers fault. as said before, you just have to follow standards. right now, as i'm writing this, i'm using Opera 6.04, which is so great at caching and so much faster and versatile than IE or NN that it just beats them all. it, however, picks up on almost every single detail of your code that's wrong so things may look a little weird :D I've also got mozilla running which is very nice since it's open source, but opera is awesome.

btw, i just validated this page of html... 103 errors. lots of them are small things that the browser doesn't mind. nearly no page is perfect, but should be viewed exactly the same in any browser.

Auhg! DON'T SAY THAT! Netscape works GREAT if you know how to write correct HTML. Nothing should be optimized for ANYTHING. Check out www.w3.org if you want to learn correct HTML.

I, for one, use a text browser half the time...not much is 'optimized' for lynx.


And I agree...Opera is awesome :) Browsers with MDI view are the best...too many popups? just close the main browser...all gone!

i just realized that there isn't adobe golive 6.0 listed as one of the poll choices... that's a great program, and unlike dreamweaver, you need to know some html before you can just pull off a website. in fact, using photoshop, golive, livemotion, and illustrator is a pretty phat combination. of course, you do need the flash mx to make it all pretty.

Yes ofcourse, as i said in my other posts my website team is going to work on the compatibility for other browsers. Right now it only supprts IE in nexxt few months it will be compatible with mozilla, Netscape and Opera.
But i still preffer IE anyday..

i had used FrontPage and notpad in the past. but since school has such good deals on software at school, i was able to purchase Macromedia Studio MX for the price of $100. im using Dreamweaver and and Flash on our new site :cool:

Yeah.
There are things that are specific to certain browsers, to please those browsers. they arent w3 compliant, but they make it work on all browsers, and dont cause too many problems on those browsers that dont use/understand that particular tag.

Hrm. This is really going to take a while to make my site W3C compatible :) I have LOTS of errors. (I code incredibly quick...it's always messy. For writing my page in about 2 days, it's not all that bad.) I tend to skip using quotes and use the div tag in the wrong place. I also forget things like putting alt in my img tag (and I'm even a console user! *gasp*)

And so the journey begins just to put a little W3C check on my site :)

CHAOS 131 is all done in frontpage, basicly beacuse its easy and It works welll with angelfire (our host), if anyone out there can tell me a add-free, FTP enabled, and has 500meg per month min. that would be awsome, and it has to be free of course!

i dunno if you can find that mattk. i recommend Ventures Online. They are Cyber Blue's host as well as the host for Chief Delphi. They have very good customer service and support. They have never not been able to solve one of my problems. Im sure Brandon could also set up a deal with you :)

Hmmm....If I were to do the web site I would definitely have to do most of it in flash, cuz I absolutely love it. Flash MX, is, in my opinion, one of the most fun programs out there to build stuff in. If I do it, however, my site probably won't be too dial-up friendly, so Ill probably learn dreamweaver or something to make an HTML section. Yeah, our website is www.hollandfirstrobotics.com but I dont think anything is there at the moment.

Everyone seems to think that writing code "Hardcore" in notepad, or vi, seems to be the "Coolest" way or something :D Granted, when you SSH to your webserver, it's all you have, but at your PC, it's nice to have some tools. Personally, I write a lot of C code, and I HATE writing C code in vi, or Pico. When I had to SSH onto MSU's server to write one project, it was like hell. I'm using MSV6 right now, and I write my CGI scripts in C, mostly because it's what I know, and I like writing in it. I'm currently learning PHP, because it's similar, but because I don't currently have a good reference for the PHP API's, I don't really like using it. I do all my web design in DreamWeaver, although I don't use all of their tools.

I wrote my own mud client, and it reads in room files, and I even wrote a room editor so I didn't have to do it by hand, and the rooms are fairly simple, mostly because I can write the editor in 30 minutes, and save time later. I dunno, just my spiel.
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OMG the Lions Just scored!!! They need an onside Kick and a fieldgoal, LETS GO LIONS...</off-Topic>

Peronally, i like notepad, but i like Font Page too.

It's like the way drafting came along. First the pencil and paper, than a straight edge and a slanting table, and than a computer program.

It is all to help making web pages much Faster and easier. So what if we take the "cheater's way-side" to some people, but that is in human's evolution. Rember, "LIFE ALWAYS CHOOSES THE EASIEST WAY TO LIVE" your ego just makes it take the hard way...

(i don't mean to sound like i am flaming anyone, but this topic has come across me and my friends and i have been a little mad at this...):D

My teams got 2 websites. primarily b/c one of the websites that is made is run off of a home pc. and to make things a little bit better its the main web page for our team. that main web page wascreated with the use of Forntpage and is hoted on a house pc but Yahoo rents the .com service to the person moderating the site. the second site i created was made up from Front Page also but is hosted by tripod and uses cjb.net site redirection services.

:D my site takes up 4 accounts @ tripod. the main index is one account. and then the 2001 2002 and 2003 years have there own seperate accounts. makes for easy updating moderating and if something goes down rather then delete the entire site and do it all over i just delete the portion thats bad and improve it. hey. its just a secondary site that no one looks at unless the main site goes down.

Http://www.Rodowizards.com

Http://robowizards.cjb.net

There isn't really anything wrong with using programs to help, but some people just do it completely with it and without much knowledge of coding. Plus, when you look at the computer-generated scripts, they're not by you and quite difficult to look through to find what you need. I think Dreamweaver's a bit too user-friendly... GoLive is what I use to manage websites. As for hosting, I'm soon hosting my website for $2.08/month for 500mb space, 5gb transfer, unlimited pop3, webmail interface, server side, cgi, php, perl, mysql (1), etc. Pretty good since there's a lot of places out there for $8/year domain registration.

WUT IS THAT HOST?!?!?

I'm hosting my site for free! Unlimited bandwidth, unlimited space, unlimited everything. Oh yeah. I own the server :P I have 24/7 live support :P (*waits patiently for October...then I can have an _actual_ server...rather than using my family PC*)

I've done pages in the following: notepad, vim, emacs, dreamweaver, homesite, and mozilla composer.

Each one has it's own advantages (except notepad)

Why so many... though the site looks like its has a dreamweaver base. All the javascript and buttons are dreamweavers... site looks good.

ubergeeks site
 

i used pico/nano to construct our page that uses php, html, css. i used flash (obviously) to make the flash image on the front page.

See it here.

Used photoshop for the graphics.

The only thing i didn't make was the forum (which is phpBB [very nice script by the way. very comparable to vbulletin]) and the picture gallery (a VERY robust php gallery)

get the forum here and the gallery [url=http://gallery.sourceforge.net]here[/URL.

well that can be easily seen that u used other scripts.. Though i must say nice integration. We have also used an image script on our site.

I must say you integrate the image script nicely into yours also.

The only critique i have is your menu. It doesn't function at all in linux and has severe problems in windows using flash 6. it looks fine using flash 5 but the bar part of it is lacking when using the flash 6 plugin.

i'm not sure why that is.

but personally i find intrusive scripts like that annoying and potentially obstructive to the user.

This coming year our team may be having a 3D Website.
You can chck out the engine at :
http://www.northdragon.com
Streaming 3D Baby!

i'd heard about that but heard it put MAJOR stress on your server and connection. i would also assume it would put a good deal of stress on the client computer.

it would be interesting to see what you come up with though.

Sorry about that but its not flash. Its javascript and VML.
WEll the VML will not work in other browser except IE but the menu will be compatible by next month with all other major browsers and OS. Sorry about that though.
AMX

hmm.. i never thought about using VML for that.

you said it worked with IE but i can't get it to work with my IE6. i'll send you a screen shot or something to show you what happens if you would like.

Uhg. I hate proprietary stuff. If it's not open, it shouldn't be on the web. It should be open or they should develop it for every browser and every os. I like the first choice better.

Sure a screenshot would be great.. I appreciate all feedbacks...thanx guys...

Pages
 

I did a bit of designing this summer... but became too busy to get past conceptual design. I'll probably get a new site done a few weeks after the Oct. SATs :D . Take a look at what I have...
http://robodox.tripod.com
Note that that page is totally just a design experiment, and a bit CPU intensive. It needs the Flash 6 plug-in, but the final will probably be exported to Flash 5. For you Flash people, note that version penetration of the Flash 6 plug-in is still around 30-40%, while Flash 5 is around 95% . Tools: Macromedia Studio MX (f, fii, d), 3ds max.

We actually use the team forums continuously... but most of it is hidden unless you join the Forum.

This is the official page, by the way. It's of little interest: http://www.robodox.org

stupid popups :)

this is my first year for designing the team web site, so im basically using the pervious site as a template and incorporating subtle differences into it. i learned dreamweaver 4 and fireworks 4 in a matter of 2 or 3 months, i learned it off and on, so it took a lil bit. im hoping i can turn here if i ever need help doin somethin hard. so far it doesnt seem to be too hard, just testing when i mess somethin up and gotta re-work like 3 things to fix that one. but anywayz, i really like doin web design. i first learned a bunch of html on angelfire, believe it or not. my design isnt up yet cuz im still workin on puttin the pics up, but it wont be soon, give it another month or so, im really really busy.

I am designing our website now (3 years and we still don't have one!)... I am using Flash MX and, of course, straight HTML! There is no other way that HTML should be done. All of those pre-packaged web design programs are crap and ruin the actual format of the HTML! They should all be eliminated...

One more comment to the two who voted for "CGI":
CGI is not a language but a web interface. You cannot design a website in "CGI". You can only use CGI to interface with a server-side language such as PERL (what I use), ASP, etc...

Ditto.

Has anyone noticed that certain pre-packaged editors screw up the code, rendering it unreadable to the Notepad user? Check out www.jazzconnections.org (a site I work on) for an example. Some of the pages were done by a friend of mine with a program and the code is so horrible!! Arg, frustrating...

www.kineticknights.com is all done by hand (notepad). I however, did not do the banner.

All of the info is stored in an MS Access 2000 Database. All the coding is done in ASP (and HTML obviously).

I am hoping to get a new design that is easier to navigate.

Feel free to sign up.

Chris

www.hiverobotics.com is the webpage I administer for my team... It was written in notepad and the code editor of dreamweaver mx. The (few) images on the site were done with fireworks mx. The site is aproaching the point where the entire thing is generated out of a ms access database on the fly... that would be ideal. I am in the process of integrating a forum, which should be up soon. Oh, and every page in the site should validate as XHTML 1.0. To test that, click the logo at the bottom of the page. If it doesn't come up valid, PLS tell me! ... I notice that ASP isn't on the list at the top and PHP is... that's so sad...

ragex.org/robotics was written in php using vim. I use scp to copy files. And a mysql db holds most of the sites content.

why use mysql, postgreSQL is infinitely beter.

i'm using a postgreSQL on my server...

www.yangotang.com

team188.com uses a number of scripts and SSI stuff, much of which, including the forum, was coded by my predecessors. Because of the way they did the site, it'd take me weeks to fix up the HTML and Javascript to something that plays nice with non-Windows/IE machines (you'll cry if you try to validate the site). I personally use Macromedia Studio MX mostly, but I have a number of other editors. FrontPage IMO is the WYSIWYG editor for n00bs, giving garbage code all the time. Anyway, I would love to at least try to do a site in XHTML 1.1/2.0 and XSLTed XML, but I don't have nearly enough time.

Our team is looking for a good, affordable server for our website. If anyone knows any that offer CGI access, no ads, FTP access, etc (the basics), please let me know. We would really like to put our site up soon.

Good luck in your research.

And also, define "affordable"

:]

Well...free is always the best option ;) , but I guess in the range of $50-100 a year. We don't have much money to spend so we need to save wherever we can. I would like to find a reliable server for that price...

yet again... http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...threadid=15824

The website team uses Frontpage.

i see the evils of micro$oft have gotten to you and your team.

:D

Well we use 3D Studio Max in animation and Adobe Photoshop, Illistrator and Premiere. We use Sonic Foundry's Acid Music 2.
0 so we're not totally in Microsoft's pocket (though the X on our caps do look like the X-box logo just don't ell them! )
So there!:p

Hehe..My thoughts exactly.;)

Bah! Frontpage? At least use dreamweaver (it's so much better than the evil microsoft product) :D

You tell 'em, dawg!

Use Dreamweaver MX for design, Photoshop 6 for imagery..


Site uses php and mysql for basically everything, even dynamically loaded pages.

http://team144.mdreamworks.net/

Don't use Dreamweaver because it's not Microsoft. Use it because it's far better than anything Microsoft can come up with.

I agree
 

Dreamweaver is simple, clean and can be used to create pages fast. I also like the template feature they have, even though i havent used it.

I code everything by hand in PERL and HTML with some CSS thrown in there. www.combbat.com I use PERL to manage databases to store the news and other pages so it can be updatable without needing FTP which makes it easy to add updates from school when necessary. I use a program called Ultraedit at www.ultraedit.com since it color codes the coding (makes debugging much easier) and you can have multiple windows open at once. It also backs up old versions in case you mess something up, a VERY helpful little gadget.

I know our site is made up of ASP, ASP.NET, CSS, HTML, and every so often some layout is done in Dreamweaver. oh and fireworks for the navigational panel.

I use Notepad, for the most part. Dreamweaver on occasion...

as for images and logos, i favor Rhino3D+ Flamingo. I don't know PSP or Photoshop, and don't care to learn. Them. If i ever need buttons in a pinch, i stick with trial versions of some good programs that are out there, or web-based button generators. Great timesaver.