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CJ_Elliott 07-03-2016 08:21

Re: Defense is Back in a Big (Good) Way
 
For anyone questioning whether or not shooting from the outer works can be consistent or not. I recommend that when the videos for Northern Lights come out, you should watch 5172's matches. They were finalists and better shooters than we were in my opinion.

Hallry 07-03-2016 08:30

Re: Defense is Back in a Big (Good) Way
 
If you want to see some defense...
https://youtu.be/ddDCaKKvCJM?t=20913
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddDCaKKvCJM&t=29987
https://youtu.be/ddDCaKKvCJM?t=31556

alephzer0 07-03-2016 08:35

Re: Defense is Back in a Big (Good) Way
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hallry (Post 1552622)
If you want to see some defense... https://youtu.be/ddDCaKKvCJM?t=20913

You guys did a great job and I loved working with your drive team.

samefman 07-03-2016 08:37

Re: Defense is Back in a Big (Good) Way
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hallry (Post 1552622)
If you want to see some defense... https://youtu.be/ddDCaKKvCJM?t=20913

Can't believe you beat me to it, I was just going to post that.
Talk about defense...

fergie 07-03-2016 09:07

Re: Defense is Back in a Big (Good) Way
 
only looked at first video but the defense blue bot gave 10 points for fouls; if it was a closer match could have been a bummer not a victory.

Takes good coaching to see everything on the field and making their alliance all react properly. I truly believe any robot could defend; it would take good coaching to know when and if they should.

Bentorino 07-03-2016 12:08

Re: Defense is Back in a Big (Good) Way
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginger Power (Post 1552088)

So is defense a good or a bad thing for Stronghold? Post videos of great defensive performances along with your opinion.

As a breaching robot, the defense doesn't have a large amount of influence on us, but in finals, 3786 played some incredible defense on the two shooters of the other alliance, almost completely shutting them down:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXn-AP1W1LY

At a higher level, I see a breaching robot finishing their cycle and counter-defending, keeping the defender off of their shooting robot.

The defense so far is very healthy, and keeps the game very exciting.

Hallry 08-03-2016 20:30

Re: Defense is Back in a Big (Good) Way
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hallry (Post 1552622)

Here are some better angles of 1676 playing defense in these matches:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyAG7wIJS28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gddz-iyuu0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTkoELdL4I4

BeardyMentor 08-03-2016 20:52

Re: Defense is Back in a Big (Good) Way
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hallry (Post 1553893)

1676 is a HUGE reason the alliance was successful. I am sure you already have, but thank your drive team and the rest of the team for doing such an awesome job.

spebow 05-04-2016 07:41

At the Bu competition this week defense was a huge thing. One team got a red card for tipping a robot over. There were a ton of fouls but over all it was not too bad. I think defense is a necessary facet of this game. I like this game because you can come in with a solid drive train and still be a contributing member of the alliance. Defense is a good way for smaller or younger teams to help out a lot. Also it adds another side to high goal shooting. Robots that can shoot from the batter or outer works get an advantage because they are less susceptible to defense. Though I think this is a good thing because it is another thing that can separate good teams from really good teams. I do not think that defense ruins the game. I think it is a very good part of this years game.


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