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Cam_Team 2619 07-03-2016 12:30
Re: 1678 Two Ball Auto
 
Quality bench grinder.

Peyton Yeung 07-03-2016 12:35
Re: 1678 Two Ball Auto
 
I think another interesting question is will we see this at the first event for some of the other top tier teams.

Andrew V 07-03-2016 12:41
Re: 1678 Two Ball Auto
 
Very cool, however since your going over the same defense twice its not worth anymore than just doing the second ball in teleop, 30 points regardless, but it does save you time in teleop. kudos on making it work.

Chris is me 07-03-2016 12:45
Re: 1678 Two Ball Auto
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew V (Post 1552834)
Very cool, however since your going over the same defense twice its not worth anymore than just doing the second ball in teleop, 30 points regardless, but it does save you time in teleop. kudos on making it work.
The second ball is scored as an autonomous ball, which is 10 points versus 5 for the same ball. Since you still have the ability to get the 5 points for the second crossing (that you didn't get in autonomous) later in the match, it is a net gain of 5 points across the whole match doing the same behaviors. It is definitely "worth more" than just doing it in teleop. 1678 wouldn't do things like this for no reason.

Poseidon5817 07-03-2016 12:47
Re: 1678 Two Ball Auto
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1552837)
The second ball is scored as an autonomous ball, which is 10 points versus 5 for the same ball. Since you still have the ability to get the 5 points for the second crossing (that you didn't get in autonomous) later in the match, it is a net gain of 5 points across the whole match doing the same behaviors. It is definitely "worth more" than just doing it in teleop. 1678 wouldn't do things like this for no reason.
It's worth more both points-wise and time-wise. Alliances who can score a combined 3 balls in autonomous have to shoot a little more than half as many balls as they would have otherwise. Teams with two-ball autos will be able to get captures more frequently, rank higher, and have a higher chance to win.

araniaraniratul 07-03-2016 12:54
Re: 1678 Two Ball Auto
 
Having seen this robot, It's kinda funny they chose a bench grinder. It's got the noise of one without the 5817-esque trajectory.

CalTran 07-03-2016 13:12
Re: 1678 Two Ball Auto
 
Huh. Well I'll be darned.

billbo911 07-03-2016 13:16
Re: 1678 Two Ball Auto
 
So glad to see you were able to reach the two ball auto goal. I knew it was rumored, now it's confirmed!

See ya'll in a couple days!

CalTran 07-03-2016 13:22
Re: 1678 Two Ball Auto
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by billbo911 (Post 1552870)
I knew it was rumored, now it's confirmed!
Not that this isn't impressive, but I'd call this more "plausible" than confirmed. Only when it's done during an official match would I give it confirmed.

Chris Endres 07-03-2016 13:33
Re: 1678 Two Ball Auto
 
I smell a turret. GG 1678, impressive yet again.

JohnFogarty 07-03-2016 13:34
Re: 1678 Two Ball Auto
 
Really wish this was just a video of the robot and not of a bench grinder meme.

Floodie Wowerz 07-03-2016 13:34
Re: 1678 Two Ball Auto
 
Wow!

araniaraniratul 07-03-2016 13:35
Re: 1678 Two Ball Auto
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Endres (Post 1552886)
I smell a turret. GG 1678, impressive yet again.
I wouldn't really rely on your smell then. :o

Catherine57 07-03-2016 13:44
Re: 1678 Two Ball Auto
 
Kudos for thinking outside the box. Dropping the original ball to pick up one off the midline while you know exactly where you and the ball are is really clever. I gave this problem some thought but didn't even consider this approach.

Alpha Beta 07-03-2016 13:59
Re: 1678 Two Ball Auto
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Catherine57 (Post 1552896)
I gave this problem some thought but didn't even consider this approach.
I don't know if this post inspired the approach, but Dr. Joe certainly got my attention with it back on January 26th.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Johnson (Post 1530515)
**For a two ball auton, I think teams will not dare picking up a ball from the midline AFTER crossing a defense twice so I suppose that such teams will probably put a ball in their robot, put it DOWN at the start of auton, then get a ball from the midline, cross a defense, shoot, traverse back to get the ball they put down, then cross the defense again and shoot. Tricky but a nice advantage if you can manage it.
By the way, well done 1678. Impressed yet again.


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