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lmhi 11-03-2016 15:45

Low Bar Flaps Removed at Alamo Regional
 
The new Low Bar flaps at the Alamo Regional were removed today partway through Qualification matches, due to flap damage and entanglement with robots.

I wonder if this week's other events will have their Low Bar flaps removed now as well?

Kevin Sevcik 11-03-2016 15:47

Re: Low Bar Flaps Removed at Alamo Regional
 
<Marvin the Martian>Well, back to the drawing board...</Marvin>

Irwin772 11-03-2016 16:23

Re: Low Bar Flaps Removed at Alamo Regional
 
At GTR East they gorilla taped them after they began to tear again, seems to be holding up so far and not affecting any teams. Duct tape fixes everything.

Gregor 11-03-2016 16:43

Re: Low Bar Flaps Removed at Alamo Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Irwin772 (Post 1555591)
At GTR East they gorilla taped them after they began to tear again, seems to be holding up so far and not affecting any teams. Duct tape fixes everything.

GTRE is still running the old low bar flaps.

Nick Lawrence 11-03-2016 16:48

Re: Low Bar Flaps Removed at Alamo Regional
 
We're still using the new low bar flaps at the Greater Pittsburgh Regional, no significant damage has occurred to them.

An interesting thing; it's pretty easy to bowl a boulder into it and have it stay on the Low Bar Defense. The boulders don't pass through, but the new flaps seem to be able to hold boulders better than they can bounce them back into the Neutral Zone.

-Nick

dodar 11-03-2016 19:29

Re: Low Bar Flaps Removed at Alamo Regional
 
The Low Bar flaps at Orlando never seemed to really take any damage.

gorrilla 11-03-2016 20:22

Re: Low Bar Flaps Removed at Alamo Regional
 
4639 is at alamo right now. I think they removed them because we put a tear in them during practice yesterday and another robot ripped them in half. That was just one side so idk why they removed both. I didnt hear an official announcement.

cpapplefamily 11-03-2016 20:53

Re: Low Bar Flaps Removed at Alamo Regional
 
Hopping for a single acrylic flap.

New Lightning 11-03-2016 21:08

Re: Low Bar Flaps Removed at Alamo Regional
 
St. Louis is using the new flaps and we haven't had any real problems to my knowledge.

EricH 11-03-2016 23:42

Re: Low Bar Flaps Removed at Alamo Regional
 
New flaps at L.A. are holding up.

Pratik Kunapuli 11-03-2016 23:48

Re: Low Bar Flaps Removed at Alamo Regional
 
New flaps at Columbus event in Peachtree District have no noticeable damage or entanglement issues with robots.

LlNUX 12-03-2016 00:42

Re: Low Bar Flaps Removed at Alamo Regional
 
Mexico low bar has been taped out of that it hasn't receive any huge damages.

GaryVoshol 12-03-2016 05:39

Re: Low Bar Flaps Removed at Alamo Regional
 
The Medieval Car Wash (thanks Joel) at Kettering #2 is holding up well. I saw a flap flip over the top bar once, so there was a partial opening for the rest of the match. One of them has a piece of black tape on the portion that loops over the bar, so there must have been a small hole that they patched. The zip ties around the bar that act as spacers slide sometimes, so the gaps get a bit wider and narrower, but field reset repositions them for the next match. I haven't seen any robots having problems with them.

AllenGregoryIV 12-03-2016 07:30

Re: Low Bar Flaps Removed at Alamo Regional
 
The new Low Bar flaps were not installed on Friday at Alamo, they were still using the orgional flaps until they had to be removed. They didn't get the shipment in time to have them installed on Friday morning. The new flaps were installed last night and will be used today.

CalTran 12-03-2016 09:09

Re: Low Bar Flaps Removed at Alamo Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Lawrence (Post 1555599)
We're still using the new low bar flaps at the Greater Pittsburgh Regional, no significant damage has occurred to them.

An interesting thing; it's pretty easy to bowl a boulder into it and have it stay on the Low Bar Defense. The boulders don't pass through, but the new flaps seem to be able to hold boulders better than they can bounce them back into the Neutral Zone.

-Nick

No mahor damage at KC thus far, but they seem to have a tendency to bunch up / ride the zip ties on the bar.
The boulders also sometimes get stuck in the low bar flaps if you bowl hard enough, and it makes judging HP intent when they roll a second boulder rather difficult...

TheMilkman01 12-03-2016 09:40

Re: Low Bar Flaps Removed at Alamo Regional
 
I may have misunderstood, but I heard we had some issues with them at the Lake Superior Regional, so a couple of volunteers joined together to sew replacement low bar flaps while the event was taking place. In addition to that, they proved more durable than the ones FIRST provided. Hats off to those volunteers for their strenuous, yet marvelous work –– you guys never cease to amaze us with your dedication.

GeeTwo 12-03-2016 09:44

Re: Low Bar Flaps Removed at Alamo Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cpapplefamily (Post 1555669)
Hoping for a single polycarbonate flap.

You misspelled two words. Fixed that for you...

Jeffrafa 12-03-2016 09:45

Re: Low Bar Flaps Removed at Alamo Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Lawrence (Post 1555599)
An interesting thing; it's pretty easy to bowl a boulder into it and have it stay on the Low Bar Defense. The boulders don't pass through, but the new flaps seem to be able to hold boulders better than they can bounce them back into the Neutral Zone.

I have noticed this happen a couple times as well. It makes for a bit of a foul hazard, as teams need to watch out for G41 if they are carrying a boulder already when heading for the low bar.

evanperryg 12-03-2016 11:30

Re: Low Bar Flaps Removed at Alamo Regional
 
Arkansas has had no issues with the new low bar, besides what Andrew Lawrence mentioned. Nobody seems to have gotten tangled in them, although they do seem to shove the zip ties around. With the boulder holding thing, on top of the sliding around, I wouldn't be surprised to find out about yet another low bar change. Perhaps they could take a page out of GTRC's book and use number fabric?


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