Team Update 16 (2016)
 

Re: Team Update 16 (2016)
 

Well, it looks like 254/1678's ceiling touching camera poles won't be legal any more under this rule. I wonder how that affects the visibility from the cameras.

Re: Team Update 16 (2016)
 

Put cameras on poles 3 ft long, attach to ceiling. Problem solved.

EDIT: They also did not enforce that the cameras had to be connected only to the driverstation and driverstation shelf at the madera event this weekend. I saw most teams mounting them to stands on the ground (which to me seems a lot safer than having a pole on a driverstation shelf that is getting rammed by robots all the time). Maybe they will change that rule, too.

Re: Team Update 16 (2016)
 

On the bright side, now we aren't limited by our shops ceiling for practice!

-Mike

Re: Team Update 16 (2016)
 

Do we think the new height limit applies to the whole driver station, or does it exclude the elements held/worn by the drivers. In other words, can I make a taller camera pole as long as someone is holding it and it is deemed safe?

Re: Team Update 16 (2016)
 

Does anyone know the nominal height of the driver station shelf? The manual gives width and depth, but not height for that part... and knowing that height is going to be important for figuring out the max height for cameras, as it's defined "above the floor".

Re: Team Update 16 (2016)
 

FE-00004 shows 34 inches from floor to bottom of shelf.

Re: Team Update 16 (2016)
 

The shelf is 34.25" above the floor.

Re: Team Update 16 (2016)
 

The driver station rules make sense, and the fixed backup bot rules are a relief.

The clause added to the contact above the midline doesn't really make sense though. Who gets the foul now? Both teams? And what is the intent of this rule?

Re: Team Update 16 (2016)
 

I believe since they purposely added this after the note that the max height is the max height regardless of whether or not a driver is holding it.

Re: Team Update 16 (2016)
 

11'8"??? Hmmmm........

Re: Team Update 16 (2016)
 

I guess FIRST was worried about teams not fastening their poles properly and creating a dangerous situation!

Best Regards,
RM

Re: Team Update 16 (2016)
 

I am actually glad the height limit has been implemented.

While we designed our "Eyes in the Sky" to be safe and quick to assemble, I can't say the same for every pole at CVR. Seemed like some teams were making them just because 254/1678 had one, with little consideration to the strategic advantage they may/may not have received. Safety was not always a priority with these rushed assemblies.

To be clear, our set up, which included a 27" screen, secondary 13" screen, and a go-pro on a pole, was completely designed and assembled before the event with safety in mind.

I hope future events will be safer with the new height restrictions in mind.

-Mike

Re: Team Update 16 (2016)
 

So if shockwave won worlds does that mean the maximum height would be 448'8"?

Re: Team Update 16 (2016)
 

I am somewhat disappointed we don't get to see how high they would have ended up being at the Edward Jones Dome.