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AdamHeard 17-03-2016 11:39

Re: WestCoastBestCoast Week 1 and 2 Wrapup + Week 3 Analysis
 
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Originally Posted by WCBC (Post 1558863)
We are very encouraged by the positive response.

254 was more than happy to provide us with some strategies to help other teams do well at their future events. Caveats apply: this only works at select California events, but all other events are invalid anyway.

We all know how hard it is to make a great second pick. The rising star of San Jose might have a method some teams should look in to:



Thanks for all of the help, guys and gals!


Whoa whoa, your flowchart is missing some critical pieces. There is no sandbag #1 pick.


We're still working on sandbag #1 seed, not really sure how to accomplish that one yet.

Andrew Schreiber 17-03-2016 11:45

Re: WestCoastBestCoast Week 1 and 2 Wrapup + Week 3 Analysis
 
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Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 1558872)
Whoa whoa, your flowchart is missing some critical pieces. There is no sandbag #1 pick.


We're still working on sandbag #1 seed, not really sure how to accomplish that one yet.

I'm still amazed you managed to sandbag WFFA...

CMP Conference talk on competitive sandbagging?

bkahl 17-03-2016 11:48

Re: WestCoastBestCoast Week 1 and 2 Wrapup + Week 3 Analysis
 
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Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 1558872)
There is no sandbag #1 pick.

Hmmm here I was thinking CVR 2014 was all a master plan..

Nuttyman54 17-03-2016 11:52

Re: WestCoastBestCoast Week 1 and 2 Wrapup + Week 3 Analysis
 
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Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber (Post 1558875)
I'm still amazed you managed to sandbag WFFA...

CMP Conference talk on competitive sandbagging?

Minor nitpicky point here: The students had to submit the WFFA nomination, which means that Adam himself couldn't sandbag it. It therefore follows that he has been incredibly successful at mentoring his students on how to sandbag properly and all the necessary communication skills to pull it off. Which means he rightfully deserved the WFFA...so...it wasn't sandbagged?

It brings us to the existential questions: If one intends to sandbag and accidentally doesn't, was it still sandbagging? Did Adam's communication skills actually fail in such a way that he taught anti-sandbagging? Is the whole WFFA premised on a sham? And if so, was the sandbagging actually successful? Is Adam actually Darude? We may never know.

(All joking aside, well deserved Adam, regardless of how well you taught them sandbagging or not)

Citrus Dad 17-03-2016 12:26

Re: WestCoastBestCoast Week 1 and 2 Wrapup + Week 3 Analysis
 
We usually work with 254 to find the most non-functional robot at the competition as our joint 2nd pick. We pit test them and if any electrical current flows we immediately drop them from our list. Some teams are better showing dysfunctionality than others.

BTW, how am I supposed to decipher your graphics if you don't put numbers on them?

Akash Rastogi 17-03-2016 12:45

Re: WestCoastBestCoast Week 1 and 2 Wrapup + Week 3 Analysis
 
I hope one day we'll be good enough that when we suck, people will think we're sandbagging, instead of just sucking. That's every mentor's dream, right?

Lil' Lavery 17-03-2016 12:59

Re: WestCoastBestCoast Week 1 and 2 Wrapup + Week 3 Analysis
 
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Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 1558920)
I hope one day we'll be good enough that when we suck, people will think we're sandbagging, instead of just sucking. That's every mentor's dream, right?

I've been sandbagging for 14 years now.

Tom Bottiglieri 17-03-2016 13:11

Re: WestCoastBestCoast Week 1 and 2 Wrapup + Week 3 Analysis
 
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Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 1558920)
I hope one day we'll be good enough that when we suck, people will think we're sandbagging, instead of just sucking. That's every mentor's dream, right?

This only works if you get picked #1 overall after said stinking, based entirely on the fact that the top seed doesn't want to play against you.

Pauline Tasci 17-03-2016 13:13

Re: WestCoastBestCoast Week 1 and 2 Wrapup + Week 3 Analysis
 
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Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1558752)
That's just Pauline overwhelming the judges and them giving them the award in defense to call her off.

LOL. I don't think I've actually talked to a judge since 2013.

RoboChair 17-03-2016 14:38

Re: WestCoastBestCoast Week 1 and 2 Wrapup + Week 3 Analysis
 
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Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri (Post 1558935)
This only works if you get picked #1 overall after said stinking, based entirely on the fact that the top seed doesn't want to play against you.

Fear our can grabbers!

No, seriously. I'm amazed they passed safety inspection and didn't maim anyone.

Can't score points if we have the cans.

Can race=worst race

Andrew Schreiber 17-03-2016 14:51

Re: WestCoastBestCoast Week 1 and 2 Wrapup + Week 3 Analysis
 
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Originally Posted by RoboChair (Post 1558975)
Can race=worst race

That's Racist.

bkahl 17-03-2016 14:57

Re: WestCoastBestCoast Week 1 and 2 Wrapup + Week 3 Analysis
 
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Originally Posted by RoboChair (Post 1558975)
Fear our can grabbers!

Are you sure he's referencing you?

Peyton Yeung 17-03-2016 15:00

Re: WestCoastBestCoast Week 1 and 2 Wrapup + Week 3 Analysis
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RoboChair (Post 1558975)
Fear our can grabbers!

No, seriously. I'm amazed they passed safety inspection and didn't maim anyone.

Can't score points if we have the cans.

Can race=worst race

Worse than minibot race?

At least with can races you'd see the occasional battle over the center line.

Richard Wallace 17-03-2016 15:27

Re: WestCoastBestCoast Week 1 and 2 Wrapup + Week 3 Analysis
 
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Originally Posted by Peyton Yeung (Post 1558986)
Worse than minibot race?

I think 2009 auton was the worst race. All six robots turned tail and ran away from the humans.

RoboChair 17-03-2016 16:35

Re: WestCoastBestCoast Week 1 and 2 Wrapup + Week 3 Analysis
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber (Post 1558981)
That's Racist.

Yes, yes it is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bkahl (Post 1558984)
Are you sure he's referencing you?

No, but the statement does at least fit. We only did 5 stacks and many teams saw that as a detriment.

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Originally Posted by Peyton Yeung (Post 1558986)
Worse than minibot race?

At least with can races you'd see the occasional battle over the center line.

That's a fair argument, but watching minibots go flying off sometimes when hitting the top was highly entertaining. Also the fight to get in position with the poles increased the anticipation and excitement.


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