[FUN] FRC Top 40 Week 2 and Rant About Replays
 

FRC Community,

Thank you to all who tuned in to FUN Recap with the FRC Top 25. A special thank you to our guest Tyler Holtzman from 2056 and congrats on their 23rd consecutive regional victory!

A huge subject this week was if video replay in FRC is needed. We invite to have you check out our soapbox discussion here.

If you want to check out the FRC Top 25 for Week 2

What teams missed the list that you feel should have been in the top 25 (or 40)?

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Us 5137 #3 in CVR 2nd allince captain pretty sure that cracks week 2 top 40

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Thanks for your unbiased feedback!

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LOL its true though one of these years..feel like Rodney Dangerfield this season

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We matched 610 in terms of teleop low goal cycles when we had comms. we just didn't have a hanger though. I'm not complaining about not being in the top 40.

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You've probably been there prior.

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Usually when they deserve it.

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Thems fighting words...lol

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It's one thing for your team to not be well known. It's another to be known to everyone as "that team that constantly complains about people not recognizing them". That being said, you guys may very well be one of the top bots but you shouldn't need public approval to know that you are a good team. We have never been in the Top25 list with any of our bots but our team is still proud of our past accomplishments and will always strive to improve year after year.

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I hear you we need to crack though. Hey he asked.

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If anyone else wants to know where they landed, I am happy to oblige:

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Sure, let's play a game of who has banners this year: I got 1 and I'm only 20% done with my season (may change depending on qualifying for DCMP).


Point is, whining about not being on some top 25 list is kinda like whining about the match schedule - ultimately a pointless waste of your time. Focus on building cool robots and if the people that vote on these things don't like it, who cares.

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I 90% agree with Andrew here. Look getting on the Top 25 is cool because it means that people notice your team and your performance. Even before I joined the crew it has always been my focus to try and market 2826 the best we can. Not so we get on the top 25, but so other teams know who we are and talk about us. Why? Because when we are not an alliance captain, I want my team positioned in the mind of the alliance captain stakeholder that handles who selects what team so I am picked.

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There was 24 week 2 events (25 if you count Israel) there is not enough slots for the top 2 of every event to make the top 25 let alone top 3.

Trust me I get your frustrations about the apparent lack if notice your team is getting, I came from a much less well known team than the one I am on now. With time and continued solid performance your team will get notice and respect. 4334, 4451, and 4488 are all teams that are all considered top teams in their area despite their relative young age

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I didn't realize 10 year olds were allowed to mentor teams now.

Way to make your team seem like a fantastic bunch of people, I'm sure everyone will recognize you now, for very positive reasons.

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Hey John, couldn't pay your way into the Top25? $300 dollars and could have done more? ;)

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I realize that actually just half joking, our season is done we had a blast. I have to say though there are a ton of young teams I saw in the past two weeks that give many of the big teams fits..things are looking up for the next gen of FRC . heck a rookie took SD #1 and 5817 has the hardest shot I've ever seen. 5136 was really good and fast lowbar HG shooter too.

I wish all the rookies/young teams well that are going to St. Louis go get them.

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Amazingly said.

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Our mentors are pretty crappy but we try real hard; is there a top 25 for trying real hard?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kg0y_hLmzXk


Apparently.

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Perhaps an honorable mention for try hards? Good luck with your mentors...

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Hi Everyone,

I'm just checking in to say that I really appreciate this show that you guys run! If it weren't for this show I never would have learned of amazing teams like 1648 or 33!

Thanks and keep up the great work.

Hey Boltman,

I know it can be hard to not be on the top of the list in a public poll but sometimes the truth hurts! I ran for city council once and didnt even make it onto the ballot...
That being said, maybe if you have a better showing or build a better bot (I hope so! Cheering for you guys) then you'll be able to crack the top list!

Just keep everything tightened down and never stop working away at it and you'll make a robot that people will want to talk about some day!

Best Regards,
RM

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Threw some bills for North but saving the money shots for Vegas ;).

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they just ****post on the internet and demand to drive the robot at events; it's crazy yo

also andrew im finna get those tinsnips, you got any contact info for them?

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Don't we all?

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It is nice to see the Average Joes (3620) mentioned here for the first time. For the moment we have the highest OPR in Michigan: 47.8 -- someone please correct me if I missed a higher one. But of course, it is statistically more likely that you will believe statistics when you like what they say about you. ;)

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Didn't those tinsnips make top 40?

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THAT'S JUST EAST COAST BIAS, BRO

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As a member of the 997 drive team I believe that the duck tape should make top 25.

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As a viewer of this video, that whole... everything... was just the single best FRC match I have ever seen. And I had ringside seats to 2014 Einstein [1].




[1] Technically I also had ringside seats to 2012 Einstein but decided stuffing my face with brownies was a better idea until I got removed from the volunteer lounge due to the storm [2]



[2] And totally not cuz they were out of brownies and I'd started in on cookies.

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There is a story behind that match. Our intake had crumpled due to a quarter finals robot bashing us, the lightening pattern compromised the tubing. In the QF match before our shooter was taken off line by the same robot. This left us with just a drive train. We knew we would loose so we decided to have some fun with it. If it worked we would have been surprised.

PS. I forgot the duck tape.

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You should have put a bench grinder in that tote. :cool:

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I was actually curious about that story. I was thinking to myself, ok, maybe they were trying to make a blocker? Was really confused.

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It was an attempt at a blocker. Still do not know where that steel shelf came from. Working hard to fix all the parts of our robot.

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Can you please stop harping on 5817's hard shot? A hard shot is only a component of what could make a robot good.

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Hi Dunngeon,

I actually think that Boltman is speaking highly of 5817's shot. I haven't personally seen it but from what I've read from Boltman it sounds like they have a fast moving and accurate shot!

Can't believe they're just a rookie team pulling off everything that they have. Anyone know if they have any experienced mentors?

Best Regards,
RM

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Its deadly accurate and hardest shot I every witnessed they are dangerous in the worlds "if not broken", great young team with a bunch of mentors from existing established teams... I wish them the best. they clocked it at 75MPH. They have swerve too. If they don't break down I see them rising high in any division they are in. Very hard to block.

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Did you have to weigh in again with... all that?

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yes we did, 124 with bumpers and battery.

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That feel when everyone agrees with you. :)

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On a weekend with 24 events and all of the best teams in the world playing, i'm honored that some voters payed attention to our neck of the woods and thought we deserved a vote. Feels good :)

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If only your event was more prominently highlighted in Looking Forward at the beginning of the week, maybe you could've placed higher in these rankings!

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I don't think getting carried through CVR counts as top 40 worthy, otherwise 1323 would have been #1 in 2015.

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I have received a couple requests to display the entire list of voting for the polls. I just wanted to clarify that we will not be releasing the entire poll and are happy to show who was in the Top 40 instead of just the Top 25. If you would like to know where your team landed, please either post or send me a PM and I am happy to let you know.

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* Grabs popcorn *

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LOL like I said all these top polls are basically popularity contests. No one knows all the teams in every area. No way I could even fill out realistically a top 40 and I scout a lot of teams and attended two events with about 100 teams.

The top is not that deep this year..its a hard (like last year) and brutal engineering challenge this year.
I'd say CVR was roughly 8 deep then it dropped off
SD was about 5 deep with decent higher end performers for this years game.

Its a year of survival more than anything. Will be very interesting to see teams in worlds how they'll hold up with some mileage put on.

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Sure they may be popularity contests. One way to become popular is to do well consistently - that's something all of these teams have.

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I disagree I'll put 5817 on any of the three lists they have listed in OP... over some of the more popular teams. They are definitely a top 40 in world team this year (through week 2) . I have zero doubt of that seeing them in action. (Cycle times, swerve , deadly OW shot)

So its not really a "top 40" is it? When it seems required to "do well consistently" which has nothing to do with this year..so it is a popularity team #'s you remember list that no one can realistically fill out accurately for the current year.

Not 5817's fault no one really knows about them yet nationwide for a poll

Should be "Top 40 historic teams you remember from previous years doing OK this year list"

Yes previous wins deems success but discounts newer rookie teams doing well in current year so take any top 40 with a grain of salt.

BTW congrats 2485 love your designs every season your team received a well deserved engineering award this season, enjoy the worlds.

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Your gripes may have been better received if you started with citing 5817 as a team worthy of the Top 25/40, rather than your own team.

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I just did they are better than us they shoot HG better than just about anyone plus HG auto, lets be honest there us no way to do a top 40 here...maybe top 10 each week would be more accurate. Too many competitions to keep track of.

I find recap shows and lists funny is all and the OP asked for input. I hope I put 5817 on everyone's radar for worlds. As long as they don't break down again they are very solid.

Honestly we are likely out of top 40... so are some bots currently on the list due to "not popular" ones killing it.

I just like to make waves and get the discussion flowing. On any topic at FRC which is old and needs shook up a bit. Look at instant replay stuff is happening.

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Can we get a poll where the rankings are adjusted to account for the incredible depth of California events?

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I going to be honest and say straight up that it seems that there is no way that your opinion will be swayed and that's okay. You are correct like practically any other poll there is information bias and margin of error.

<Addressing everyone>
With that said one of the reasons we brought back the 'expert' poll to help balance the geographic inconsistancues. Does this cover 100%? Absolutely not but it does help balance this.

I certainly hoped that you voted and filled out the sheet correctly. Some people do just like 5-10 teams and then put in fake teams or try to manipulate the system in other ways. We catch 95% of it and have a program set up to do so and then I personally manually check it after.

Healthy debate is great but no matter what there is always going to be somebody to pour salt or complain. Remember this is for FUN and not officially recognized through FIRST.

So either have fun with it or don't. We hope you do and contribute to the FRC Top 25 and enjoy content that is being provided. It is the goal of our show (and of GS) to provide engaging content that will get more of the FRC community involved. I am delighted to hear your feedback and the show will continue to evolve

Thank you to all those who watch.

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How should we measure that? Are there any deep events outside Cali? :confused:

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California has the 11th highest average elevation in the US, meaning that California isn't very deep.

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I don't fill out any top 40/25 sheet because I have no clue how to do that accurately too many slots open to personal bias on teams who's # you remember from last year.

Why not shorten your list to top 10 world wide in current year + top 10 in your events area each week of those you actually witnessed to get a better accuracy then meld the two lists together for a top 25/40?

A 25 slot list is not ideal because no one really has a clue how to accurately fill it out. I think lists of 10 people can handle better with less "historic" bias.

You might actually get a better top 40 list as swayed by popularity ratings. Experts have bias too.

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Measuring depth relative to mean sea level, the deepest event should be Bayou, in progress now at the Pontchartrain Convention Center. :)

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An event in Georgia had their field on Astro turf. I'd argue that makes it the deepest field in FRC. The rest of them resist robots sinking in far more.

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Interesting! So, using robot wheel 'sinkage' relative to mean field level as our metric, the deepest event so far would be 1992 in Manchester! And the shallowest would be any event in 2009. :rolleyes:

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Oh idk about deepest event. Only deepest field.

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But 2009 featured the only confirmed water game. So it by default is the deepest.

You know, if it had actually happened.

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I won't opine on whether 5137 should be in the top 25 or 40, but I think I'm in a valid position to comment on 5137 vs 2 other teams from CVR that were ranked above 5137. 5137 clearly outperformed 701 Robovikes (who helped found 1678 and to whom we feel strong allegiance). They had similar designs, yet 5137 outranked 701 and advanced to the SFs over 701's QF. 5817 had an amazing robot for a rookie team, but 5137 played a more well-rounded game and did better at managing its alliances to get to the #3 rank despite playing then No. 1 seed twice and the No.2 once. Their SF match was really about 973 v 1323 (who are ranked above them).

But to go further, notably absent from the ranking are 812 and 3482, who played on par with 973 and 1323 in our scouting data. In fact 812 was 3rd on our scouting data list.

It's too bad that 5137's season is done and they will miss the opportunity for further recognition.

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While I agree that 1323 and 973 were both important parts of their alliances, 5137 and 5817 were also equally important. I won't speak for 5137, but in our matches with 1323 we shot 4-5 boulders a match at 90% accuracy, plus a high goal in auto. To say that 1323 and 973 were the only contenders in the semis is false, as evidenced by the ~110% point increase after we repaired and came back in SF2-2.

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Just like in real elections. You don't vote you can't complain. So please stop complaining, as your opinion is now invalid.

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Now?

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Boltman, I have played with your team since your inception. And although your kids are very excited about FIRST and without a doubt build good machines. The consistency is not near what those of 254,1114, and more.
Your claim no one knows and you're one of the best teams is insane.
In our 3rd year Code Orange won a division and got on Top 25 and got posted all over Chief. You work hard, you get results.
I'd suggest you sit with your kids, get them to have the best robot in the world and you'll be talked about.

:)

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No, but if I said what I really wanted to i'd probably be booted from CD...

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Hasn't got me kicked off of CD yet....

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Yeah, I found it kinda funny we got a vote, and we spent a couple of matches in the "tortuga" position at CVR. Goes to show you how making a good looking reveal video can get recognition before you actually compete. Anyhow, we look forward to an improved performance in weeks 4 and 5.

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Just make an anonymous account called "WisconsinCoastCheeseCoast" and you can say whatever you want!

-Mike

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I'll be back in 5 min...

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We're excited to compete with you guys in Sac! I hope we get to play on the same side of glass at least once!

-Mike

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MidwestIsTheBest ? Areas of the midwest that are not district? Hmmmm

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Is there an element of popularity that comes with these contests, yes, is it pure popularity, no. While 179 and 4451 are well known teams and had an advantage competing at the only event in week .5, no one can say that 179 is more popular than 33, 67 or 359 who we out ranked or that 4451 is more popular than 1023, 25, or 341 who they our ranked.

What I think is more telling and you should take more issue with is that West Coast Best Coast, who was doing satire sure but was focusing on California did not highlight your team. If the satirist from your state doesn't notice your team, how do you expect for the general populous to?

I agree with Adam here, so long as you keep your language to a PG movie you should be fine. Heck if you speak your mind like Adam you may one day get a WFFA award, (Congrats Adam btw)

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Code Orange challenge accepted....

We love doing this each season of course we'll be back to mix it up again with some of the best teams anywhere on this planet. I'll see you play in OC got an eye on you and to make sure all bots get their earned crossings. Getting my eyes checked today.

Like I said I like to make waves online its part of the fun. I try to be helpful too as payback to the wider community. Its all in good fun.

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Hi Boltman,

Glad to hear you'll be trying again next year! Hope the eye exam today goes well, people on here seem to think you need one...

I had a question about that one rookie team you keep talking about. You said they were low goal, had a strong shot, and were hard to play defense on? Could you help me understand how this happens. I thought a low robot would have a straight shot that is easy to block if they are low that's why I thought tall teams would be good this year. Thanks for explaining this my fastener friend.

Best Regards,
RM

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What makes 5817 especially dangerous is their swerve drive (when its working) they can move very fast in any direction once in goal site they lock onto HG or have a straight shot at LG boom its in, near or far anywhere. They also have a strong enough shot most defenses will get broken trying to block them.

They were paired with 1323 in eliminations and many times both of them simultaneously hit the HG and 1323 was on of my top HG scouted bots they just need more consistency.... 5817 once locked in does not seem to ever miss and its a straight trajectory to the goal.

The only reason they did not rank higher was their multiple issues with their swerve.

I would put them (when working ) right behind 254, 1678 and on par with 973 when they are on so that is really good HG company to keep. The swerve though makes them in ways harder to defend sometimes if you cannot move like they do.

Actually I am surprised 1678 and 254 alliance won so handily in Finals versus 1323 and 5817s alliance but I did not see it first hand as we were packing up. Probably I gather it might have been a boulder starvation thing only so many boulders with high flying HG bots.

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They were just an extremely OP alliance IMHO. 3970 harassed us quite a bit, and with only one wheel working in finals, it was impossible to evade them. However, we did manage to challenge with one wheel, and also set up a screen for 1323 once.

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This cannot be understated.

3970's defense effectiveness was incredible. They kept our opponents to less than 100 pts in every one of our playoff matches, which helped keep our victory margins high.

I was very impressed with how focused 3970 was throughout the playoffs. I personally really enjoyed working with them!

It will be interesting to see how defense evolves as more teams begin to increase their high goal consistency.

-Mike

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Perfectly said. 3970 is a great team with great people and a great robot. If anybody deserved to win CVR this weekend, it was them. 3970-esque defense will become more and more common as the season goes on, and teams with more versatility in shot strength and position will perform much better than teams who can only shoot from one spot in the courtyard. As more and more teams recognize this, defense will get rougher and rougher. Because of this, I wouldn't be surprised if 254 and 1678 just set the final season high score last week, or if it is set by a powerhouse alliance in the upcoming weeks (2826?).

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So question... I sort of did this. I can't name the top 25 teams because I don't have time to watch all events or know that much about the teams. This past week I filled out probably the top 15 or so that I could think of from the events that I watched (GTR, Tippecanoe, and CVR) and tried to order them in what I thought was fair.

After that I went and put down team # -1 for the other 10 or so spots that were left.

So because I put down none competing/nonexistent teams does the rest of my poll get thrown out???

[sorry Boltman you weren't on my list but in every other Top 25 poll I will put 5137 down as my "-1"]

[also everytime that I wrote the word poll on here I kept typing pole as I am thinking about how huge a pole 254/1678 have/had]

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254 had the bigger pole.

In the future, I expect more pole parity.

#teampole

-Mike

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The number of times you've repeated this when referencing 5817...

We get it. You don't need to keep typing this.

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^ See virtually no one can list top 25 accurately in any given set of weeks and many will struggle to fill solid selections past 10-15
Top 10 sure otherwise they are just empty blanks filled by teams you may know their # or nonsense

Trying to judge performance cross event is mystifying too as some events are much stronger than others even within a state like CA. I would struggle to accurately rank 3021 "winning HG shooting captain" in SD versus the CVR top field..different types of game play at each event. I saw both events and know how to scout and watched pretty much every game. Put 3021 in CVR mix where do they place?? Not sure until I see it happen. For example defense was much more brutal in SD than CVR so one has to take that into account. But you would not know that unless you saw both events.

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I hardly think that just one response on Chief qualifies as something everyone does. For instance, I generally keep up with 2-3 streams on weekends that I can watch, ask around in the chat for a few other "must-sees", then when I run out of teams at around spot 15, I go through events that i didn't watch and just put down the captain of the winning Alliance. Granted, it doesn't appear to cover teams like yours or 5817, but no system is completely perfect.
I'd rather keep the current system though, because it's all in good fun. I suppose if you want to be super official, best-of-the-best, you can start your making your way to IRI

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Doug, your robot was so good that you could flip 2 of your alliance robots and have your third play only defense AND still win the match! :cool: I don't like those odds when we play you without that handicap.

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There's no way the majority of the participants in the FRCTop25 poll do what you're saying. I'm sure quite a few voters are students on teams who competed that weekend, and I doubt they watched multiple streams and then went around asking for other good teams - they were probably busy with their own events and the like.

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We were happy to send 3970 to Champs. We had knocked them out of their best previous chance at the 2013 CVR when they had the best bot going there. It was nice redemption for us.

I predicted at the beginning of the year that the high score will be 270. Now I'm pretty sure that's achievable with refinement of auto, climbing and high goal shooting, but it won't happen until Champs.

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Good thing teams that deserve to be on here don't actually really care about the poll, they care about their performance. This poll isn't supposed to be some accurate list of the actual best teams in this week. It's for fun. Oh wait the webcast is even called FUN! It's just here to recognize some of the many many great teams that played in the previous week!

Maybe you can start your own show and name it "Serious" where you can spend hours and hours trying to predict and rank the best teams from 1-25 for the very important reason of.... uhhh..... I guess we will get back to you on that one.

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I think pole parity has been imposed from above with a new rule. :(

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5FfJ89rGPc

Anyway, disappointed but not surprised 2338 didn't make it. We'll be back in full force at Midwest, ideally with fewer burned out 775pros!

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Boltman,

I love the Iron Kodiaks. You guys have impressed me every time I've seen you. That said, as a newer team, do you really want your image to be of the team who complains about their perception in the FIRST community? Many people are first hearing of 5137 through your posts. Keep that in mind.

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I know.I know... I get excited and part of what makes us go as a team..I have to tone it down a bit as we settle into this yearly rotation, we'll let our play speak for itself..next year.

Every year I actually tone it down another level. I'm getting too old for this I almost lost my vocal chords in SD after we beat #1in two games this year. In CV I was pretty subdued even at #1 ...amazingly. weird.

I am actually getting much better. At least I did not guarantee a win versus 254 or 1678 like last year against #1. That was not graciously professional..hangs head. Sorry 1538. (that did not work out in SD last year ..drats)

Just so you know we all love W.A.R Lords you are one of our favorite teams locally love your image . Awesome bots every season and your team members are great. So happy you won an engineering award. I loved your small 2014 bot...actually was a spirit inspiration for "Varsam" this year.

I really am here just to have fun. impart competitiveness and I am humbled by the amazing teams around us. They are amazing. My team itself is pretty subdued I'm the only real crazy one but it does help the team's confidence against all odds. They mostly just shake their heads.."um you probably shouldn't have done that." they haven't kicked me out yet ;)

I committed to one more year.... so I see the original Freshman through their Senior year. Then will decide if I 'll re-up. My son is also a mentor he was the awesome drive coach in SD...a founding Senior our RAS campaign.
We'll bring it next year for sure. More lessons learned this year. Iterate up.

Its only cool if you have fun doing it otherwise its just boring work. I/we have fun.

Secret: I really am a 10 year old kid inside and "robot season" is like Xmas day for me.

Can't wait to see what CA teams makes it to Einstein...good luck to all! You too 179.

Re: [FUN] FRC Top 40 Week 2 and Rant About Replays
 

Just out of curiosity, have you guys ever looked at average seeding of Regional Robots vs District Model Robots? Just eyeballing it, I am curious if the rankings tend to skew regional heavy at least until the District Championships. I know that personally I tend to watch Regionals instead of districts, so my votes would likely be skewed.

Also if the information is available, where did 1731 rank? They where the cream of the crop at the Southwest VA district this past weekend.