Flipping Rule
 

Hello at our competition in Midland Michigan this week some robots came close to tipping us over in the playoffs. I was wondering if there were any rules preventing them from doing so, or if there was a penalty if they did.

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That depends on where you are on the field and what time of the game is it. If you look at the centerline district, there's a match were a robot is totally flipped by a defensive bot.

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We are in their zone trying to score. Also was their a penalty when this happen couldn't find the video.

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So the action has to be ruled by the Judge as an intentional act of our strategy.
Being that we (TORC 2137) was playing D, which is allowed by the rules, and that the bot that was flipped, (don't remember number, it was in the semis "at Waterford" which I can not find posted on youtube) was actively engaging us, and other times we had hit them and backed off prior to flipping them, we were not penalized at all.

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Then, I believe there is no foul unless it's in the last 20 seconds.

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There was a red card issued for flipping a robot during the QF at Seneca yesterday

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OK thanks a lot I'll make sure to look at the replay when it gets released.

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Was it intentional or how was the robot flipped?

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At Waterford there was discussion about ours, and I could have seen it being flagged too.

But I think the judge got it right in our case. We were playing hard D, which is allowed by the rules, it was not in the last 20 seconds.

You don't get to score a goal uncontested, because you designed a tippy robot.

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There was a good example of this in F2 at Lakeview. With about 50 seconds left, 85 and 5980 get into a head-on confrontation in front of the blue tower. BoB wins and the blue bot goes over backwards, out for the rest of the match. You can clearly see the Head Ref calling the foul (the only one assessed against red that match) a second or two later. No yellow card.

That same incident was featured in the Week 2 episode (Season 2 Episode 3) of RoboZone. 2:48.

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Robot was playing very tough defense. Had the other robot up on end, backed up, then hit again, causing the tip.

If video ever shows up, it will be here: https://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2016njtab_qf4m1

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I'm not seeing what the flurry of fouls on blue was immediately after that red flag. If BoB could have just not done that last little push at the end I think they might have not earned that tipping foul either...

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Second blue robot in their courtyard.

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Forgot about robozone, here is our hit at Waterford, that was not flagged.

https://youtu.be/jWBjueiorZw?t=18m35s

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Ahhhh, you forget about the simple rules when you haven't played yet. Rough call though since the first one was definitely out of play, would that still stand if the flipped bot had been e-stopped?