top 25 teams by category
 

Using the data from my recently released database, I thought it would be fun to share the top 25 teams by category.

Subtracted tower strength
Auto points
Teleop boulder points
scale points
2056's results are astounding, they are at the very top of 3 of these lists. That caliber of play in so many aspects of the game is completely unmatched.

There are very few consistent climbers. A 50-50 climber puts you in the top 50, and you can probably count on one hand the teams that have climbed in every qual match.

There are very few consistent boulder scoring autos out there. Some of the teams on this list may have never even scored boulders in auto. It is important to recognize that although some of the teams with boulder scoring autos may be scoring 20 autonomous points, they often are contributing far less than this if they require the low bar, because they are taking that low bar spot away from other teams who might not otherwise get a cross.

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Are teams with 100% breach rates common?

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That is an excellent question that my current database is ill-equipped to satisfactorily answer. Here's my best guess, maybe in the future I will have the tools to do better.

The average breaching contribution per team is .193. That is, three average teams together would average about 57% of a breach. Thus, teams with breach contributions of 1-(2*.193) = .614 could be expected to breach every match. 54 teams meet that criterion.

Obviously, this method has some major flaws, but it should give a decent ballpark estimate.

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Congrats to 1024 for being in the same list twice! :D

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I'm guessing one of them is 1023.. typo maybe.

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No typo. 1024 contributed 18.63 boulder points per match at the Tippecanoe district event, and 22.33 boulder points per match at the Walker-Warren district event.

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Now the question is.... Which one is 1023? Ima guess the lower one because 1024 would be above 2771

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Then wouldn't you average the two?

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That would be one way to do it.

I was originally going to list both the team number and the event in these lists, but the code tags provided by CD's text editor were being annoying, so I just dropped the event information.

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You should do a category of bots with the highest defense (defense breaching) points.

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As you wish.

Be careful interpreting these though, remember that it is much easier to get high crossing points at weaker events.

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Does this data only include qualification numbers?

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Yes.

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For those of you who haven't seen 4680's robot yet, I would definitely check them out. They are probably the leading candidate for MCC this year IMHO. They have been the #6 pick and #5 captain at their first two events, respectively.

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Summing Caleb's four categories into a cumulative rank, where the points for each category =26-rank, the top 25 are:

1. 2056 - 75
2. 359 - 53
3. 148 - 46
4. 1986 - 43
5. 118 - 41
6. 1114 - 35
7. 2481 - 35
8. 3683 - 33
9. 2122 - 27
10. 4982 - 27
11. 2122 - 27
12. 4334 - 26
13. 708 - 25
14. 1876 - 25
15. 233 - 24
16. 1418 - 24
17. 1747 - 23
18. 337 - 23
19. 254 - 22
20. 987 - 22
21. 3937 - 22
22. 610 - 21
23. 330 - 21
24. 2200 - 21
25. 4451 - 20

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Average would not necessarily be useful since every event is different - then again, we are trying to compare all of the teams worldwide, which have competed in dozens of different events. My personal choice for list would probably be to include teams only once, with their highest calculated performance, in order to have a unique top 25.

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How does a team average higher than 15 in scale points?

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If they play X matches there are more than X scales in those matches. Doesn't matter who actually scaled, this is all alliance based.

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These values are calculated in the same way that OPR values are calculated. The numbers shown indicate a given team's average contribution to a given scoring category, which is not necessarily the amount that they themselves score in that category. The amount greater than 15 from 1876 could just be noise, but it could possibly indicate something deeper. For example, 1876 might have scaled from the side rungs, which left the easier center rung available for other climbers.

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At our event this weekend we went 13 for 15 in scaling. So to say that those teams are better isn't really correct. It just means that their alliances were better.

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Just remember that it depends on how you play the game. We go into every qualification match wanting to take down the tower and breach. It is hard to quantify a team this year by statistics since strategies are so different. Point in case, we are high in the rankings for defense points because we knew the value and ease of the breach ranking point so we made sure to tackle the defenses during qual matches and when we had alliance members that struggled with certain defenses, we would go and cover those thus taking our shooting scores down since we were no longer shooting. The key to this year's game is creating a robot that can fill the void where you may be missing alliance members. With this year's game, the numbers may not show how great your robot is in one specific area, but if you can cover the field in a case by case scenario, the ranking points sure will. It all depends on the quality of the regional. 2056 had a lot of opportunity to shot because of the quality of their alliance partners. If you are the best shooter, like 2056, and your other alliance partners can handle the necessary defenses, that takes a large load off of you. There are a lot of really good bots who may not be in any of these rankings due to varying their strategies match by match.

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Firstly, these results only account for qualification matches. I'm not sure what your climb success rate was in quals, but the data potentially implies that your team was about 9/12.

Secondly, the calculated contribution results do a pretty good job of separating individual teams out from their random alliances given that the metric of interest is separable. Scale points are pretty separable, that is, whether or not a given robot on an alliance scales has little impact on whether another robot on this alliance scales. Crossing points are not so separable (which is why I did not originally post the crossing rankings) since a robot that can cross all defenses will almost never contribute 50 crossing points.

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I was not trying to pick it a part. In quals we went 10/12 and in elems went 3/3. I love work you put in to this, so sorry if you thought i was try to pick it apart. the only reason i said that is because the top teams average was above 15 that's all.

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No problem, I just used your post as an opportunity to clear up some common misconceptions about these calculated contributions.

The exact rankings of teams should be taken with a grain of salt. However, the general relative positions of teams should be correct.

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How can a team have more then 15 scaling points per match average?

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I'm interested in how you are calculating these? Some teams have negative values for boulders scored. Are you trying to run these numbers the same way OPR and CCWM are calculated?