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Caleb Sykes 21-03-2016 20:20
top 25 teams by category
 
Using the data from my recently released database, I thought it would be fun to share the top 25 teams by category.

Subtracted tower strength
Code:
rank        team        subtracted tower strength
1        2056        7.18
2        233        6.64
3        2122        6.28
4        148        6.15
5        610        5.41
6        359        5.40
7        25        5.38
8        118        5.34
9        5254        5.27
10        4039        5.26
11        1986        5.07
12        3683        5.07
13        2619        5.00
14        6086        4.99
15        1114        4.95
16        708        4.91
17        2481        4.85
18        4982        4.80
19        3528        4.77
20        238        4.75
21        254        4.74
22        4334        4.73
23        2486        4.73
24        1648        4.68
25        2655        4.66
Auto points
Code:
rank        team        auto Points
1        2056        20.66
2        1114        19.78
3        1747        19.65
4        987        18.58
5        1986        17.45
6        4451        16.99
7        234        16.79
8        1736        16.50
9        3310        16.38
10        1619        16.08
11        3754        16.07
12        2481        15.75
13        359        15.67
14        2877        15.55
15        179        15.06
16        2013        14.64
17        1678        14.58
18        2046        14.44
19        5038        14.38
20        1288        14.16
21        3339        14.08
22        2122        14.04
23        4039        13.96
24        2537        13.85
25        5137        13.82
Teleop boulder points
Code:
rank        team        teleop Boulder Points
1        2056        31.33
2        148        28.34
3        118        25.02
4        4334        24.32
5        330        23.73
6        359        23.60
7        4982        22.57
8        1024        22.33
9        254        21.77
10        3238        21.74
11        2502        21.14
12        2771        20.51
13        4564        20.19
14        2481        19.89
15        876        19.79
16        5038        19.75
17        2393        19.71
18        2468        19.44
19        1986        19.35
20        133        19.04
21        180        18.92
22        359        18.85
23        1241        18.69
24        1024        18.63
25        1501        18.36
scale points
Code:
rank        team        teleop Scale Points
1        1876        16.13
2        1418        15.00
3        337        14.12
4        3937        13.94
5        2200        13.20
6        16        12.08
7        3683        11.81
8        2081        11.68
9        5413        11.09
10        4573        11.02
11        708        10.98
12        74        10.97
13        5509        10.96
14        1876        10.93
15        21        10.89
16        1983        10.87
17        217        10.64
18        1094        10.58
19        3990        10.37
20        71        10.27
21        3009        10.23
22        1662        9.49
23        876        9.40
24        1533        9.39
25        5172        9.23
2056's results are astounding, they are at the very top of 3 of these lists. That caliber of play in so many aspects of the game is completely unmatched.

There are very few consistent climbers. A 50-50 climber puts you in the top 50, and you can probably count on one hand the teams that have climbed in every qual match.

There are very few consistent boulder scoring autos out there. Some of the teams on this list may have never even scored boulders in auto. It is important to recognize that although some of the teams with boulder scoring autos may be scoring 20 autonomous points, they often are contributing far less than this if they require the low bar, because they are taking that low bar spot away from other teams who might not otherwise get a cross.

JohnFogarty 21-03-2016 21:11
Re: top 25 teams by category
 
Are teams with 100% breach rates common?

Caleb Sykes 21-03-2016 21:46
Re: top 25 teams by category
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnFogarty (Post 1560745)
Are teams with 100% breach rates common?
That is an excellent question that my current database is ill-equipped to satisfactorily answer. Here's my best guess, maybe in the future I will have the tools to do better.

The average breaching contribution per team is .193. That is, three average teams together would average about 57% of a breach. Thus, teams with breach contributions of 1-(2*.193) = .614 could be expected to breach every match. 54 teams meet that criterion.

Obviously, this method has some major flaws, but it should give a decent ballpark estimate.

carpedav000 21-03-2016 21:48
Re: top 25 teams by category
 
Congrats to 1024 for being in the same list twice! :D

jajabinx124 21-03-2016 21:51
Re: top 25 teams by category
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by carpedav000 (Post 1560765)
Congrats to 1024 for being in the same list twice! :D
I'm guessing one of them is 1023.. typo maybe.

Caleb Sykes 21-03-2016 21:58
Re: top 25 teams by category
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by carpedav000 (Post 1560765)
Congrats to 1024 for being in the same list twice! :D
Quote:
Originally Posted by jajabinx124 (Post 1560768)
I'm guessing one of them is 1023.. typo maybe.
No typo. 1024 contributed 18.63 boulder points per match at the Tippecanoe district event, and 22.33 boulder points per match at the Walker-Warren district event.

carpedav000 21-03-2016 21:58
Re: top 25 teams by category
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jajabinx124 (Post 1560768)
I'm guessing one of them is 1023.. typo maybe.
Now the question is.... Which one is 1023? Ima guess the lower one because 1024 would be above 2771

carpedav000 21-03-2016 21:59
Re: top 25 teams by category
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Caleb Sykes (Post 1560770)
No typo. 1024 contributed 18.63 boulder points per match at the Tippecanoe district event, and 22.33 boulder points per match at the Walker-Warren district event.
Then wouldn't you average the two?

Caleb Sykes 21-03-2016 22:05
Re: top 25 teams by category
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by carpedav000 (Post 1560772)
Then wouldn't you average the two?
That would be one way to do it.

I was originally going to list both the team number and the event in these lists, but the code tags provided by CD's text editor were being annoying, so I just dropped the event information.

dirtbikerxz 21-03-2016 22:33
Re: top 25 teams by category
 
You should do a category of bots with the highest defense (defense breaching) points.

Caleb Sykes 21-03-2016 22:40
Re: top 25 teams by category
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dirtbikerxz (Post 1560790)
You should do a category of bots with the highest defense (defense breaching) points.
As you wish.

Code:
rank        team        crossing points
1        1418        26.00
2        4061        25.76
3        11        24.57
4        1418        23.87
5        1746        23.56
6        3102        23.43
7        2637        23.36
8        4931        23.36
9        3937        23.34
10        4680        23.05
11        4468        23.05
12        4384        22.91
13        3999        22.91
14        2642        22.91
15        4680        22.74
16        5632        22.36
17        5587        22.33
18        2974        21.99
19        16        21.93
20        79        21.92
21        4911        21.83
22        818        21.81
23        4935        21.80
24        1797        21.72
25        3005        21.68
Be careful interpreting these though, remember that it is much easier to get high crossing points at weaker events.

lurker 21-03-2016 22:51
Re: top 25 teams by category
 
Does this data only include qualification numbers?

Caleb Sykes 21-03-2016 23:16
Re: top 25 teams by category
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lurker (Post 1560802)
Does this data only include qualification numbers?
Yes.

Anthony Galea 21-03-2016 23:20
Re: top 25 teams by category
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Caleb Sykes (Post 1560794)
As you wish.

Code:
rank        team        crossing points
[snip]
10        4680        23.05
[snip]
15        4680        22.74
[snip]
Be careful interpreting these though, remember that it is much easier to get high crossing points at weaker events.
For those of you who haven't seen 4680's robot yet, I would definitely check them out. They are probably the leading candidate for MCC this year IMHO. They have been the #6 pick and #5 captain at their first two events, respectively.

jspatz1 21-03-2016 23:46
Re: top 25 teams by category
 
Summing Caleb's four categories into a cumulative rank, where the points for each category =26-rank, the top 25 are:
  1. 2056 - 75
  2. 359 - 53
  3. 148 - 46
  4. 1986 - 43
  5. 118 - 41
  6. 1114 - 35
  7. 2481 - 35
  8. 3683 - 33
  9. 2122 - 27
  10. 4982 - 27
  11. 2122 - 27
  12. 4334 - 26
  13. 708 - 25
  14. 1876 - 25
  15. 233 - 24
  16. 1418 - 24
  17. 1747 - 23
  18. 337 - 23
  19. 254 - 22
  20. 987 - 22
  21. 3937 - 22
  22. 610 - 21
  23. 330 - 21
  24. 2200 - 21
  25. 4451 - 20


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