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mwtidd 27-03-2016 22:37
Re: Alliance picks declined
 
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Originally Posted by Jay O'Donnell (Post 1563776)
I've been wondering about this decline for a while. Not sure why 133 wouldn't want 319.
The end of qualifications at Reading were quite crazy. After our last match really expected BERT to be the number one seed. In their last match they needed three ranking points and we thought they would surely achieve it. However in a round about way they ended up in a situation where they were going for a capture without a breach. Unfortunately for them, one of their alliance partners rolled off the batter and they only got two ranking points, leaving them in third place rather than first.

From what I heard they thought that SMART would make a better complement to their robot, and denied our pick (maybe assuming we'd pick 4905 and Smart would be available for them... Purely speculation). We opted to go with 1058 and then Smart was picked up by 4905.

This resulted in a very evenly balanced set of elimination rounds as 1, 2, and 3 each went on to form their own alliance. We would have loved to team up with BERT but it made for a great afternoon nonetheless.

RoboChair 28-03-2016 00:50
Re: Alliance picks declined
 
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Originally Posted by Peyton Yeung (Post 1563567)
This happened in 2013 at champs. 1678 seeded first on Curie and was declined by many of the other alliance captains. This disrupted many of the other alliances in the division.
4 teams declined, our team captain had a hard time keeping a straight face at the end.

Jamesa47 28-03-2016 21:01
Re: Alliance picks declined
 
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Originally Posted by mwtidd (Post 1563876)
From what I heard they thought that SMART would make a better complement to their robot, and denied our pick (maybe assuming we'd pick 4905 and Smart would be available for them... Purely speculation). We opted to go with 1058 and then Smart was picked up by 4905.
I was 4761's rep on the field during alliance selection, and that's what I was told by 133 if I remember correctly. I personally disagree with their decision to decline, but it wasn't clear either way. Having 1058 and 3930 both in the lower top 10 would have made for a really fun afternoon whether or not 133 declined your request.

Also, congrats on winning the event (and UNH)!

Lil' Lavery 28-03-2016 21:30
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Originally Posted by Cam877 (Post 1563855)
Happened at MAR Champs last year. #1 seed(316) picked #2 seed(1640) and 1640 declined. 316's alliance actually went on to win.
2014 MAR Champs as well. #1 seed (2180) was declined by 225, 1640, and 2590. 2180's alliance reached the semifinals. The 2590's #7 alliance (which included your team ;) ) won the event.

TedG 11-04-2016 14:47
Re: Alliance picks declined
 
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Originally Posted by mwtidd (Post 1563876)
The end of qualifications at Reading were quite crazy. After our last match really expected BERT to be the number one seed. In their last match they needed three ranking points and we thought they would surely achieve it. However in a round about way they ended up in a situation where they were going for a capture without a breach. Unfortunately for them, one of their alliance partners rolled off the batter and they only got two ranking points, leaving them in third place rather than first.

From what I heard they thought that SMART would make a better complement to their robot, and denied our pick (maybe assuming we'd pick 4905 and Smart would be available for them... Purely speculation). We opted to go with 1058 and then Smart was picked up by 4905.

This resulted in a very evenly balanced set of elimination rounds as 1, 2, and 3 each went on to form their own alliance. We would have loved to team up with BERT but it made for a great afternoon nonetheless.
I don't know the all the details either, but yes, the drive team and scouting captain had a plan that fell through at Reading, it was our loss. This is one of those "learning experiences" that FIRST is known for.

Team 319 (and your alliance partners) did awesome in Reading and congratulations on your wins this season.

Dan Petrovic 11-04-2016 22:57
Re: Alliance picks declined
 
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Originally Posted by TedG (Post 1571112)
I don't know the all the details either, but yes, the drive team and scouting captain had a plan that fell through at Reading, it was our loss. This is one of those "learning experiences" that FIRST is known for.

Team 319 (and your alliance partners) did awesome in Reading and congratulations on your wins this season.
Well, it all worked out for you in the end at Pine Tree! You'd be crazy not to accept an invitation from 1519. You guys were great all weekend and we were hoping that we would get to be on an alliance with you, but we all knew that you'd be the #1 overall pick.

And I know this is off-topic, but it has to be said: I really like competing in Maine because the teams up there are all so great and yours is no exception. The sportsmanship that 133 showed towards us before, during, and after all of the elimination matches was amazing!


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